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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:13 am 
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hey fellahs,

it seems for my entire life, wherever I go, I am constantly mocked, with any jokes flying around I am always the pin cushion. Whether at tafe, high school, and work it always happens.

Is it just the way life is for me, or are there steps I can take.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:02 am 
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If someone is making fun of you there are many things that you can do.

The first one is just to ignore him and say "Yeah... sure" and continue with your conversation. This is hard for some people because they are getting nervous so it doesn't come natural but if you know how to do it - it works great (because the less you care about what he says the cooler you look).
Think of Brad Pitt. If he walks into a cafe and someone makes a joke about him would he care? Probably no. :)

Another way is just to change the Frame. This means that if for example he tries to make you look funny in front of everybody you view his actions as an attempt to prove himself to you.
Example:
He: Nice shirt. My sister has the same.
You: Ha-ha. You're funny. I like you but you don't always have to amuse people to make them like you.
This way you subcommunicate several things: you are used to people trying to make you like them, he is trying to get your approval and you show you are friendly, social and don't care too much about his jokes.
Now if he becomes hostile - it's socially unacceptible and will look like an asshole - you can ignore him.
If he continues with the jokes - they all fall into the same frame that he's trying to impress you and befriend you - he will look stupid so you can say: "Alright joke guy. Enough already. We all here like you.".
Or if he stops joking and begins to explain that he's not trying to befriend you - tell him "Oh... stop explaining yourself to me. It's cool." and then turn around and continue your conversation.

The third way is to be really sarcastic or over-dramatise it. If someone makes fun of you - find their purpose. Usually it is either to make you feel bad or they want to look cool and funny.
If it is to make you feel bad - then make a dramatic expression(or anything like that - I think you can do the acting) and say in a sarcastic monotone voice: "Alright... you ruined my day... I'm so depressed. Hope you are happy mister funny guy with the funniest jokes on the planet." or something like that. The key here is to make his attempt look funny and childish. By verbalising his intentions in a funny way you are actually making him look ridiculous.
Or if he wants to look cooler while making fun of you just say: "Oh... now you are the cool guy because of your funny jokes. Tell another one. Maybe everyone will like you better."
If you do this with the right amount of comedy in it everybody will laugh at him.

If you use some of these(if done properly) I don't think anyone will try to joke with you soon again.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:06 am 
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If someone is making fun of you there are many things that you can do.

The first one is just to ignore him and say "Yeah... sure" and continue with your conversation. This is hard for some people because they are getting nervous so it doesn't come natural but if you know how to do it - it works great (because the less you care about what he says the cooler you look).
Think of Brad Pitt. If he walks into a cafe and someone makes a joke about him would he care? Probably no. :)

Another way is just to change the Frame. This means that if for example he tries to make you look funny in front of everybody you view his actions as an attempt to prove himself to you.
Example:
He: Nice shirt. My sister has the same.
You: Ha-ha. You're funny. I like you but you don't always have to amuse people to make them like you.
This way you subcommunicate several things: you are used to people trying to make you like them, he is trying to get your approval and you show you are friendly, social and don't care too much about his jokes.
Now if he becomes hostile - it's socially unacceptible and will look like an asshole - you can ignore him.
If he continues with the jokes - they all fall into the same frame that he's trying to impress you and befriend you - he will look stupid so you can say: "Alright joke guy. Enough already. We all here like you.".
Or if he stops joking and begins to explain that he's not trying to befriend you - tell him "Oh... stop explaining yourself to me. It's cool." and then turn around and continue your conversation.

The third way is to be really sarcastic or over-dramatise it. If someone makes fun of you - find their purpose. Usually it is either to make you feel bad or they want to look cool and funny.
If it is to make you feel bad - then make a dramatic expression(or anything like that - I think you can do the acting) and say in a sarcastic monotone voice: "Alright... you ruined my day... I'm so depressed. Hope you are happy mister funny guy with the funniest jokes on the planet." or something like that. The key here is to make his attempt look funny and childish. By verbalising his intentions in a funny way you are actually making him look ridiculous.
Or if he wants to look cooler while making fun of you just say: "Oh... now you are the cool guy because of your funny jokes. Tell another one. Maybe everyone will like you better."
If you do this with the right amount of comedy in it everybody will laugh at him.

If you use some of these(if done properly) I don't think anyone will try to joke with you soon again.
Pretty good! I like the ideas :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:17 am 
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Thanks for that!

Its hard because its not esy to think of come backs straight away.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:44 pm 
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I would go with the approach of agree with them laughing about it ... and making a smart ass witter comment back ...

Guy: Yea nice shirt my sister has it in her closet
You: Oh really, I bet you I look better in it ...
Everyone: * Laughs *

If this is a consisous situation... then leave the group and then he can't further his jokes making him look completely like an ass ... 8)


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:07 pm 
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I would go with the approach of agree with them laughing about it ... and making a smart ass witter comment back ...

Guy: Yea nice shirt my sister has it in her closet
You: Oh really, I bet you I look better in it ...
Everyone: * Laughs *

If this is a consisous situation... then leave the group and then he can't further his jokes making him look completely like an ass ... 8)
That made me think:

Guy: Yea nice shirt my sister has it in her closet
You: Yeah, I'm sorry to tell you that she doesn't anymore... She had to give me something to wear after she ripped mine off.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:30 pm 
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Best comeback ever...

Anger guy with small penis: "Hey loser, nice shirt you fag"

*Pause and look at him"

You "If your waiting for/want my comeback, you can go get it of your mums chin" 8)

Will make all his mates think hes a twat, but may make him alittle aggresive if hes with friends...nobody can come back to this...fact lol


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:52 pm 
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Well what are you getting mocked about specifically? Part of it might be people in general being jerks to you, or part of it might be your own behavior singling you out as a target. What are the main issues you get mocked on?
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You "If your waiting for/want my comeback, you can go get it of your mums chin" 8)
Haha loved this.

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I would go with the approach of agree with them laughing about it ... and making a smart ass witter comment back ...

Guy: Yea nice shirt my sister has it in her closet
You: Oh really, I bet you I look better in it ...
Everyone: * Laughs *

If this is a consisous situation... then leave the group and then he can't further his jokes making him look completely like an ass ... 8)
That made me think:

Guy: Yea nice shirt my sister has it in her closet
You: Yeah, I'm sorry to tell you that she doesn't anymore... She had to give me something to wear after she ripped mine off.


You: I wont ask why your going through your sisters closet, lady boy


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:17 am 
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I've gone totally lovedrop on this. "cool bro" plow. If he keeps up "cool bro, I'll talk to you about shirts later" plow. "cool bro". finally the girl 99% of the time will say "would you shut the fuck up to the bmog.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:30 am 
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please elaborate.

are they playful jokes? or is it like random ppl saying shit to you. if this, i can understand why youd be upset. careful what you read here, there has been some good advice but also some bad advice.

if ppl talk shit directly at you in a normal daily situation, it is because they want a response. just be a bigger man and keep walking head held high. now, if it is in front of your girls or friends, take some action. dont be a pussy, start some shit.

one time a pathetic loser tried to cockblock me after bar hours by pretending he was gay and hitting on me while waiting in line for taxis. it wasnt going to work, but it just got really fucking annoying. i just had my arm around the girl, i looked up at the sky, and said in a very arrogant manner " shut the fuck up. _____" and he tried saying some more shit and i just kept saying " _____ shut the fuck up" until a taxi came...

(i am omitting the ___ phrase which was the crux of my reply, but it is pretty mean and might make some ppl feel bad)

so in other words, i stooped down to his level which was bad. but what i didnt do was just stand there while he runs his gay mouth... i did my best to make him feel like the inferior pusssy he was in a few quick words... and i did not bring up this incident again with that girl, just left it at that and moved on.

one thing you can do is get ripped. sometimes perception is everything. if u look like the type of guy who cant be fucked with, then nobody is going to try to. conversely, if you dress flamboyantly and are scrawny and annoying, ppl are probably going to get in your business....

moral of the story - become a person nobody wants to fuck with, but if they dare try put them in their place. if its just in trivial situations though, just let it bounce off your skin.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:43 pm 
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there are always stuations where you can be viewed as teh weaker person in teh group . this is the part of teh pua world thatt intersted me the most . the social interaction , when im in a group who are laughing off me i find it a great challeneg to establish dominence , i always concentrate on areas such a posture eye contact and kino , Kino isnt just about touching a grils arm at the rite time , if a guy is taking you ona slap on teh back or a nudge or whatever suits teh situation makes it completely obvious without words that youll happily enter his space if needs be . Also raising yoru own self esteem is great , i find ecercise alwys improves my mood run swim weights . when your feeling good baout yourslef athers will notice this and your cinfidence will always show . the list is endless but eep practicing , dont lose faith

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:37 pm 
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Just like a poster already mentioned but the best mPUAS can handle this amogging with simple statements like 'Cool bro', 'cool man' 'cool dude, whatever' and just continue the conversation. Check out Mehow on youtube stealing a husband's wife under his nose and listen to the guy getting irritated. I know other mPUAs like Mystery and Tyler Durden have great comeback lines, the only way you're going to get better is through practise. The more you're out in the field, then the more you could be having to do this. Best to write some of them down and keep in your cheat sheet.

As for the OP's dilemna, it seems that this issue is more prevalent in all areas of his life which is a concern. I know that mates sometimes like to joke about, it's just banter, I give, I take, that's how it is with my mates. I wouldn't go out sarging with some of them though cos they're just not that kind of mate. But there are others who do get it.

If you're having a hard time with the AMOGs in sets then Mehow basically sums it up by saying, if you win the girls over and they ignore the guys, then you can do so too. If you show that you're a fun guy to be hanging around with, then the woman will ignore the guy as they'll think he's just being a jerk to the fun guy.

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The way I have always viewed criticism or negative mentality towards me as they see me as a competitive threat or I am doing something that they wish they could achieve.

You can be witty with your comebacks, but it just shows weakness and immaturity, unless you do it naturally and win the crowd then they will look like a chump!

Save your wit for the girls, don't waste material on Amog's their just mad because Daddy hit them instead of buying them an N64 like the cool kids had.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:35 am 
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Thanks everyone for the replies!

With all these AMOG techniques out there, how can I put them to use.

Its pretty much direct mocking to put me onto a lower level.

I dont need to open my mouth or get to know the people first, it like a 'Natural PUA' walk down the street and the opposite sex just turns their heads around.

cheers everyone for the help.. I know my posts arent very helpful, its just hard to explain the situation


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