i actually did what David deangelo said about using leverage i said no downloading unless i talk to a hot girl i saw and i did it i neged her told her she looked shy and bored than we were talking and her kids she was babysitting attacked me and were fucking with me talking shit and the sad fact was that they were 11 i thought they looked like 7 year olds i didn't talk back to them though probaly should've and they tried to kick me in the nuts but i ignored the pain and they said i have man boobs because i work out, (so fuck them!) i need to shave my arm pit hair (i don't so fuck them!!) i just sat back at my table listing to music while they tried to take my shit and throw it at the pool then they threw mud at me WTF!!! i just jumped in the pool and wiped it off but they called me a stalker yet i was in my area and they were FOLLOWING ME!!! They said she was out of my league and i reframed her words i was like yeah i am out of her league i was being nice to her as i grinned.

yeah i know i screwed up epically (and to all haters in advance fuck you too!) it was just practice and at least i got the balls to talk to her so any tips to avoid the crazy WTF situations only i get into and how to handle that kind of situation and open better. much appreciated my brothers

I think you just had an uncensored version of what happens when you don't befriend the obstacle first. The kids reacted the same way 2-3 friends would when you steal their 'HB' from them before dessabling them. Typicaly people will just pull her back in, AMOGing or Cockblocking you. Kids will throw mud at you. Same reason, different method.

Befriend the kids first, pay them attention when they come to her/you.

Wooow worse Amog ever. I would have drowned them.

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Well, man I am proud of you atleast you talked to her and much, everything wasn't played how it was suppose to but its a live and learn situation ... I think alot of newbies don't even get that far with there first gurl ... some can't even talk to people ... I would recommend you to read more and practicing more ...