shit is boring. n i can never think of anything clever to say bcuz the convos usually go nowhere. like in real life your next to the person or at a movie something but u got something to talk about. then your dont know how she is responding to what ur saying. it juz feels weird...

like the last im convo i had was like a hour n a half long n we talked about dumb shit. the only thing i can remember was this...


me- u always posting new pics
her- i love takin them.
me- i bring my cam everywhere but never take any pics idk y.
her- probuly bcuz ur a lame.
me- naw, i just like takin club pics so i can remember the nite lol.
her- lol
.........
me- i dont think i can get that muddy tho. u filthy! (she was riding a quad somewhere and was lying in one of the mud piles)
her- ik but....?....im always dirty! (somthing like that)
me- ahh so the mud has nothing to do with it.
her- ya lol


i didnt know where to go with it from their so i switched subjects. bcuz she gives me short answers sometimes, n it justt seams like she dont want to tlk 2 me or somethin idk? she is a solid 9 prolly a ten (gotta c the booty lol) but she always opens me. idk. ne one else fell the same way like its just not the same??

Girls have a higher bitch shield online
Because they don't know if its really you.
You could be a 40 year old man trying to get them in bed.
There are many stories like that, girls fall in love with an online boyfriend, they meet up, and they never get seen again.
So its normal for them to give short answers...
You just need to show them they can trust you..

you should try to keep the conversations short if she's not responding much (after she's into you). This reduces the possibilities of you saying something boring, makes you seem like a very busy person (DHV) and keeps her interested.

I usually open a girl with a message. We go back and forth one message a day (to make it seem like I'm not desperate). Once I feel it's going good I respond with fluff and add "do you have aim or something? this messaging thing is too slow for my taste lol"
Get the aim or number. If it's IM, you want to build enough comfort so that she gives you her number and eventually meets you. Keep the conversations short (there are exceptions, if she's driving the conversation let her), keep them interesting and try to always be the one that's got to go soon or is being bored by her (be playful).

i always end it we were talkin till like 130 last night n i had to go to school in the morning. n the first time she talked she said she had a costume party coming up. but its the same day as a funeral i have to go to!

Here's a suggestion for reducing bitch-shield: Use proper spelling and grammar! Makes a world of difference.

here's where I'm at with online game:

1) Avoid IM at all costs. Its a time waster.

2) Use email. Not to get to know each other (why would you want to spend 20 emails getting to know each other when none of that will matter when you meet each other for coffee, you might hate each other). So use email for one purpose: to get the number. remember, you're busy

3) Use the phone for one purpose only: to make the date.

the philosophy that is emerging for me is, everything that you do before you meet in person is a waste of time, because only meeting in person can tell whether you're really attracted and presents the possibility of seduction. Therefore everything should be geared for the meet as soon as possible.

I try that too but it seems like if you try too move too fast with the phone thing women get creeped out..Its almost like you have to do the time wasters but at the same time the more time you waste the quicker the window closes...Idk its confusing lol

I've had that happen to. I've done a ton of experimenting with texting. My experience so far:

1) after getting the number, a few playful texts

2) a phone call, asking for the date. very short

3) some naughty, playful and flirty texts leading up to the date to create some expectancy

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with that said, the last few weeks I have been getting a few dates *just* by texting...some fun and some very naughty, and had a few good first dates. I can't say for sure but these are recent tests.

so my e-game lately has been:

email ---> get number ---> text or phone ---> text ---> first date

by the first date, we feel pretty comfortable, without those phone convos till 3 in the morning.

oh, and statistics wise, a typical month this summer has been:

email (100 girls)--->email response (20)-->n-close (15) -->first date (7) -->kclose (5) -->f-close(2)

not the best, but then my personal goal isnt to bone alot of different girls, its to have lots of quality sex