i have been listining to Mostly David DeAngelo but i was wondering if anything else you would reccomend i have gotten rid of my fear of talking to girls but i am having a hard time with openers and cocky funny like i bust their balls but i don't know how to keep it up like today i was at the rex center pool and i saw HB17(out of 10) my age and i completly froze She was in a set of 2 so like she went down the slide and i finnaly got the nerve to talk to her friend who wasn't bad either i asked if she was with the camp (there were lots of camps and little kids) then she went down later her brothers went and teased me saying they were digging me so i was like okay playing it off and they asked if they were hot and i said they were okay so they came over and they apologized for them and said she had a boyfriend but i was like cool (i didn't really care it isn't a big deal because there are MILLIONS of hot girls but only one me) then later i played vinesball in the pool with them and couldn't think of anything to say (i mean if i am not hooking up with them i can at least make a friend)

If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated

pua's aint in the game to make friends with girls, shit i had loads of female friends before, that was the problem. you gotta demonstrate value, like you said, theres only one of you, show her that dude!

when she went down the slide did you approach the friend on her own?

if cocky and funny is not giving you all you need, i'd recommend you try out some other courses. i could recommend mystery, joseph matthews, or savoy.

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If all else fails befriend them and use them as bait for another group of girls , you will have value ; Like dude said Dhv , a neg pick one of them u got IOI THEM whoever u want ; IDk about all these other guys but i love having women friend my goal is of course not that but having female friends its kool because picture this if their hot and you can be around them and get to knoe em tht helps you out because it will make you be comfortable around future beautiful women to come
My opinion is if all else fails have the girls as friends , run ure material and if doesnt work u did something wrong either way having them as friends is also A POSITIVE and while their friends u can still game em u just got to knoe how and im sure u do , if u dnt spend a little time reading

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So what is an IOI IDK and DHV, where could I learn all of these terms. I need some serious help with openers and want to know what are the best way to approach women

New_PUA I would reccomend exploring the forum alittle more. These terms may be found in the Newbies Questions forum, the topic is actually stickied aswell. But I can't blame you, your fairly new.

Here is the topic for all of your PUA terms as posted by Krylon - Terms of Importance - terms-of-importance-great-for-new-members-vt3077.html


To answer your question, IOI is a indicator of interest and DHV means demonstration of higher value.

Sounds to me like you may have AA, it will take some time to get over no doubt..

Regards, D. Flow

Take ure time and dnt rush there is a section for approaching , for comfort and sex
Now i think you should take ure time on the weeknd and read like crazy because onc u know this u will obviously feel good and dominate So READ ALOT

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I would advise you to further explore the forum somemore books and experiment more ... this is your first time your still fresh just touch up on everything and experiment and feel more for the game and get out there and by the time your about 17 or 18 you will be pulling in girls with hands and toes ...

thanks guys i actually did what deangelo said about using leverage i said no downloading unless i talk to a hot girl i saw and i did it i neged her told her she looked shy and bored than we were talking and her kids she was babysitting attacked me and were fucking with me talking shit and the sad fact was that they were 11 i thought they looked like 7 year olds i didn't talk back to them though probaly should've and they tried to kick me in the nuts but i ignored the pain and they said i have man boobs because i work out, (so fuck them!) i need to shave my arm pit hair (i don't so fuck them!!) i just sat back at my table listing to music while they tried to take my shit and throw it at the pool then they threw mud at me WTF!!! i just jumped in the pool and wiped it off but they called me a stalker yet i was in my area and they were FOLLOWING ME!!! They said she was out of my league and i reframed her words i was like yeah i am out of her league i was being nice to her as i grinned.

yeah i know i screwed up epically (and to all haters in advance fuck you too!) it was just practice and at least i got the balls to talk to her so any tips to avoid the crazy WTF situations only i get into much appreciated