I'm sure I'm not the only guy that's been messing around with a girl and heard he say those 4 words that every guy just can't stand.

"I don't give head"

now, I'm not sure if this is appropriate conversation for the forum but what the hell. When you hear this how do you respond? any one here convince their girl to do it even after she said she doesn't?

advice, methods, stories...would all be great. I'll bet that others would love to hear how some Master PUAs have handled this situation as much as I do.

i apologize for the multiple posts of the same thread. i was experiencing lag and i clicked the button too many times.

I just figure it would be a good topic of discussion. no?

Yeah, it kinda sucks. Fortunately, there are plenty of girls out there that DO give head! It doesn't bother me if a girl doesn't give head because I'll just get with a girl who does later.

I've heard there was a stereotype that Jewish girls don't give head. I've only been with one (or was it two?) Jewish girl and she didn't give head. What has everyone else's experience been?

I've gotten head by a jewish grl before... not hard core jewish though.

Not hardcore jewish? so whats hardcore jewish? i bet thats not as fun as it sounds

This is pretty easy, what you do is get freak with them, eat them out and should and kind of play into it ... I think if kind of brought into the situation very few girls would deny you ... I have had many girls tell me i don't do that or im not that kind of girl, but then next thing you know she is suck my dick till there is no end ... and few have said they didn't but after a little getting into it they did it ... but one thing to know the ones that don't are usually never good at all so its sometimes not even worth pushing them into the situation ...

See #1... you where thinking of #2. Sadly she wasn't much of a #2 either great body but shy as hell.

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4 letter words like don't, can't and stop don't exist in my reality.

I've encountered girls who "don't" do certain things and I've talked with Johnny Soporno about that issue as well. Basically the way I see it (note, I'm not quoting Johnny, as I can't recall precisely what he said to me), there's two ways to handle the issue; either you confront it and deal with it, or you ignore it and hope it goes away.

The key to the first method is to ask the girl why she doesn't do whatever it is, or what it is that she doesn't like about it, whether she has done it before, or whatever else question you can use to find out some info about what her problem with the issue is. Then, you present some reasoning that allows her to excuse the issue and no longer thinks that her reasoning is valid for prohibiting her from doing it. In the case of a blowjob, you ask what she doesn't like about giving them (remember to be as unconfrontational as possible during this process) and then you ask if she's ever given one before if you are unsure. If she hasn't and she says that they're gross, then you say that she has no experience to judge it off of and although you are ok with it if she isn't interested in giving you head, you let her know that you really enjoy the experience and that if she was open to seeing whether or not she really doesn't like them, then you would be happy to give it a try with her and go through it with her. Remember, this is all about creating a feeling that you are there to make her feel safe and comfortable during the whole thing, as well as super sexy.

The second method is like one of the other posters mentioned. You basically pretend they never said that they don't do such and such and then you continue getting them turned on and escalating things to the point where they are so horny that they shed their inhibitions and do whatever it was. The key to this tactic is having skill with seducing and pleasing women very well, so if you aren't very good in bed, this is going to be a harder route to take, BUT you can always get better with practice and eventually you can crack her.

Failing all that, there's Chief's "go find a new chick" method.

I had a LTR for almost 4 years. She was a vergin and she had the same problem. She didnt like giving head. So we talked about it. It turned out that her last boyfriend had gotten forceful with her while she was giving him head. So comfort has alot to do with it.

We came up with an understanding to not get too aggressive which wasnt a big deal. After that she started opening up to the idea but she still didnt want to do it.

After more discussions over a long period of our relationship i finally got her to admit what else bothered her. It was the idea of tasting the seamen and she didnt like it. So we got some flavored lotion that she went with me to pick out. They also have other items that might make her more interested.

The last thing i did was exactly what they mentioned above. I got her really into it one night and right about when she was at her peak i asked her if she would try it. She was a little stand offish but after i reminded her how many times i had done the favor for her she aggreed to try.

Since then she tried it every once in a while but only if i asked. And i almost always have to use some flavored stuff unless its not handy.

The only other thing i can think of that might work is a little shallow but it helps and its called liqour. The girl i dated was always shy and held back alot of stuff until she got drunk and then she was an animal. She even called me one night when she was hammered and told me she didnt mind doing it anymore because i liked it alot and since i give her lots of complements about it while shes doing it she ends up feeling really sexy and it makes her even hotter. It was clearly drunk talk but it was cool.

The final thing i wanted to add is your right she wasnt very good at it at the beginning. In fact since she was a vergin when we started dating she wasnt very good at anything. But the good side to that is she didnt have a bunch of bad habits from other relationships and you can show her the things you enjoy. But she also dosnt come up with new exciting or interesting things because fo her inexprience and shyness. Just my thoughts on the matter.

Skankin

it will only end up being a let down anyway...

BJ's are over rated!

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