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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:06 am 
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I met this girl at college last year and we really hit it off, but she had a bf. I worked on her for a while until she broke up with him, for me. That was great because they had been dating for upwards of two years. Now we are dating and in love, but i have a few problems and i cant get past them. First of all, i trust her but she has so many guys after her because she is very attractive that i worry that she may like someone better. secondly, she started hanging out with her ex, whom she dumped for me. this worries me because i know for a fact that he wants to be with her still. however, she does not want to be with him. i know that she is in love with me, but i still get jealous when they hang out. When i get jealous, i get pretty angry and i feel like its pushing her away even though she says its not. Lastly, when she drinks, she "makes bad decisions". those are her exact words and it scares me. i dont want to have to worry that she will cheat on me everytime she goes to a party. i trust her because cheating broke up her parents marriage and she hates cheating but she admitted she doesnt think when shes drunk.
So how can i stop being so jealous, deal with the exbf without pushing her away, and deal with the lack of thought while drinking? i REALLY need your help or my relationship may be over way too prematurely.

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first: DO NOT SHOW JEALOUSY.
it shows a weakness. it puts him as high value since yo are getting worked up about it. show both maturity and DHV by not caring. remember, she broke up with him for YOU. you are in the high throne now, and you cant afford to lose it.

also, give her trust that other guys cant offer. let her hang with her uy friends. dont be controlling nd be like "you cant see him him him or him, etc." thats a huge turn off and pushes her towards them and away from you.

hope this helps. i learned from experience.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:45 am 
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Dump her, period. And here is why:
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..... but she had a bf. I worked on her for a while until she broke up with him, for me.


Agreed you are a great guy but again what makes you think that she would not break up with you for him. There is something known as commitment and integrity. And you say that she doesnt like cheating. Open your eyes soldier

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secondly, she started hanging out with her ex, whom she dumped for me.... however, she does not want to be with him.



Why is she hanging out with her ex. when she has already broken off with him and doesnt want to be with him. You should be the no. 1 guy in her life and she should be concentrating on yours and hers relationship.
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Lastly, when she drinks, she "makes bad decisions". those are her exact words and it scares me.


What does that mean !!! She is blaming her 'bad decisions' on alcohol ! if she knows that she makes bad decisions when she is drunk than she should not be getting drun in the first place.

You want to marry a girl who gets drunk and makes bad decisions.
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......cheating broke up her parents marriage and she hates cheating but she admitted she doesnt think when shes drunk.


Ok, here is the a major problem. If you want to know more about this than pm me if you care.
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......my relationship may be over way too prematurely.
Sorry to say but she has lost a great guy like you by acting this way. Your relationship is going south and you should be the one ending it before she does that.

If you want to just sleep with this girl, or have her around for 'practise' than its your choice but if you want to marry this girl than you have issues.

Dump her, period ! she has no integrity and probaly is already making out with outher guys when she is drunk. Sorry to be harsh


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:28 pm 
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Listen here chump you got it all wrong.

Depending on the circumstances the girl probably came from a relationship that probably evolved from highschool. Therefore its like it was stale when entering college.

You can argue the commitment factor all you want but if a guy isn't meeting a girl's core values especially after two years that is his fault and not the girls.

There are plenty of ways to look at this but to the guy asking for advice... Don't show jealousy encourage her to hang out with her guy friends and say where you stand. Never give second chances.
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Dump her, period. And here is why:
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..... but she had a bf. I worked on her for a while until she broke up with him, for me.


Agreed you are a great guy but again what makes you think that she would not break up with you for him. There is something known as commitment and integrity. And you say that she doesnt like cheating. Open your eyes soldier

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secondly, she started hanging out with her ex, whom she dumped for me.... however, she does not want to be with him.



Why is she hanging out with her ex. when she has already broken off with him and doesnt want to be with him. You should be the no. 1 guy in her life and she should be concentrating on yours and hers relationship.
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Lastly, when she drinks, she "makes bad decisions". those are her exact words and it scares me.


What does that mean !!! She is blaming her 'bad decisions' on alcohol ! if she knows that she makes bad decisions when she is drunk than she should not be getting drun in the first place.

You want to marry a girl who gets drunk and makes bad decisions.
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......cheating broke up her parents marriage and she hates cheating but she admitted she doesnt think when shes drunk.


Ok, here is the a major problem. If you want to know more about this than pm me if you care.
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......my relationship may be over way too prematurely.
Sorry to say but she has lost a great guy like you by acting this way. Your relationship is going south and you should be the one ending it before she does that.

If you want to just sleep with this girl, or have her around for 'practise' than its your choice but if you want to marry this girl than you have issues.

Dump her, period ! she has no integrity and probaly is already making out with outher guys when she is drunk. Sorry to be harsh


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:09 pm 
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Listen here chump you got it all wrong.

Depending on the circumstances the girl probably came from a relationship that probably evolved from highschool. Therefore its like it was stale when entering college.

You can argue the commitment factor all you want but if a guy isn't meeting a girl's core values especially after two years that is his fault and not the girls.

There are plenty of ways to look at this but to the guy asking for advice... Don't show jealousy encourage her to hang out with her guy friends and say where you stand. Never give second chances.
Fuller, how many relationships or how many girls have you ever had in your entier life? You cute lil Kid, you are giving an advise of (encourage her to hang out with her guy friends) to a guy who is being driven by emotions (jealousy at this point). Clearly shows you dont understand how emotions work.

Besides, age is sure a factor i.e. how old are the poeple involved here. But what would it take for week hearted guys like youself who are soo of afraid of being alone that you wouldnt dump a girl because she doesnt treat you the way you'd want to be treated.

So you think it is the guy's fault when after 2 years she walks away !! kid, dont tell me you believe that. Agreed 90% of times it could be the guy's fault but to all you guys out there 10% of the time it is also HER fault. She is making you feel the way that you are feeling too. Dont take all the blame on yourself all the time.

Also, when a girl cheats the relationship is over long time back just that they havent said it to each other yet. Women would travel that extra mile to protect their relationships. A girl with high interest level in a guy never diggs another man.

Anyways Grapler, Jealousy and being insecure will only push the girl away, so sure give her the freedom. Because no amount of pressure or 'talk' can stop her from cheating (if she is). But at the same time, if she is a social flirt and you are not fine being around one than iether change yourself or get away from one. I'm assuming that your inner game is in place


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Rules you need to follow:

1. Never let a gf hang out or talk to an ex. If you tell her it makes you uncomfortable and she doesnt respect you enouph to not talk to him then she is being selfish and you should dump her end of story. Why is he talking to her? Il tell you why...he wants to fuck her / get back with her and its only a matter of time.

2. Never let your gf hang out alone with other men. that means no one on ones....your not her number one man and her best friend end of story. You should be the same...no hanging with women alone.

3. Use the 95% rule. trust your gf 95% of the time but dont give her the whole 100% because any women will cheat. keep your eyes open and keep an eye on her.

4. Dont let her know you dont trust her 100%. Unless she gives you a reason you cant let her know you dont trust her! you will look insecure and it will push her away...giving trust can work in your favour as well because if she thinks you trust her she will be more of a sloppy cheater....she wont feel the need to hide things because she wont think you are on to her.

5. dont be jealous ever! it wont do you any good to be jealous will it? no. If shes going to cheat she going to cheat and thers nothing you can do about it....if you catch her then you do somthing about it.

6. THIS ONE YOU REALLY NEED TO READ! lol dont get with a women who a.) leaves her bf for you. or b.) cheats on her bf with you. why you ask? because she an emotionally unstable women and its only a matter of time until she does it to you.


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Yeah... no. Don't listed to dark one. Controlling who your girlfriend hangs out with is not the answer to your jealousy. My girlfriend still talks to some of her exes every now and then. Granted, she doesn't go hang out with them very often, but they sometimes visit her at work and shit. This doesn't bother me. She won't cheat on me with them, she knows they lost her and aren't getting her back. On the off-chance she does cheat on me, I'll be glad I got it out in the open as soon as I could so I didn't waste time with someone who didn't feel the same way I felt. Another reason to let her hang out with other guys. My girlfriend's good guy friend is home from college for a bit. She hung out with him the other day for a bit, they went to the mall and shopped :roll:. Why do I not care? Same reason as above, plus I've met him and he has respect for me. Again, if I ever found out anything happened she'd be gone. But you can't live your whole life hoping your girlfriend isn't out cheating on you. You'll just wear yourself down and it won't be good for the relationship.

However, with that said, her leaving her boyfriend at the time for you is not a good sign. As said above, if she was willing to do that before it could happen again. Yet again, you can't have your guard up all day everyday.

As far as the "bad decisions" she makes while drinking, you may have to have a talk with her about that. Every now and then (when it comes in context) I tell my girlfriend I give no strikes and she would be out the door on the first screw up. Alcohol is no excuse for anything.

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Yeah... no. Don't listed to dark one. Controlling who your girlfriend hangs out with is not the answer to your jealousy. My girlfriend still talks to some of her exes every now and then. Granted, she doesn't go hang out with them very often, but they sometimes visit her at work and shit. This doesn't bother me. She won't cheat on me with them, she knows they lost her and aren't getting her back. On the off-chance she does cheat on me, I'll be glad I got it out in the open as soon as I could so I didn't waste time with someone who didn't feel the same way I felt. Another reason to let her hang out with other guys. My girlfriend's good guy friend is home from college for a bit. She hung out with him the other day for a bit, they went to the mall and shopped :roll:. Why do I not care? Same reason as above, plus I've met him and he has respect for me. Again, if I ever found out anything happened she'd be gone. But you can't live your whole life hoping your girlfriend isn't out cheating on you. You'll just wear yourself down and it won't be good for the relationship.


However, with that said, her leaving her boyfriend at the time for you is not a good sign. As said above, if she was willing to do that before it could happen again. Yet again, you can't have your guard up all day everyday.

As far as the "bad decisions" she makes while drinking, you may have to have a talk with her about that. Every now and then (when it comes in context) I tell my girlfriend I give no strikes and she would be out the door on the first screw up. Alcohol is no excuse for anything.
You are very naive...I dont mean that in a bad sens because honestly most men are. Do you know how many women I have dated who have told there bf's they wer going to hang out with me...their bf's are ok with it, and the girl offers to have sex with me? It happens all the time and 99% of their bf's dont have a clue!

If my gf see's an ex at the bar and wants to say hello that one thing....but hanging out alone? give me a break! it doesnt matter if you trust her because he has one thing on his mind.


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When you are with somone in an adult relationship you dont put your self in a situation that could mess things up even If you trust your self 100%. Why do you think so many people cheat?

Do you really think your gf's ex just want to hang out? haha come on bro get real! If he wanted to just hang out he would call up his boys and go for a beer....he is hanging out with her because he prob thinks he has a shot at banging her or geting back with her.

Also what do you think women talk about with there friends? men...that mean she prob talks about your problems, flaws ect ect...you think they talk about sport or the best strip club???? lol Open your eyes man.


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Rules you need to follow:

1. Never let a gf hang out or talk to an ex. If you tell her it makes you uncomfortable and she doesnt respect you enouph to not talk to him then she is being selfish and you should dump her end of story. Why is he talking to her? Il tell you why...he wants to fuck her / get back with her and its only a matter of time.

Agree, but not with the 'Never' part. Hanging out once to catch up is ok but on a regular basis, well shez got to comeup with a good reason for that and in anycase I'm not buying that reason. Once he is gone he should be gone and if she wants to hang out with him again then you have a problem in your relationship.
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2. Never let your gf hang out alone with other men. that means no one on ones....your not her number one man and her best friend end of story. You should be the same...no hanging with women alone.
Again, you may come across as controlling and may end up pushing her away. Meet the guy and see whats going on there. Girls often have good guy friends, and youd be coming off as a jerk if you drive her good guy friends who were in her life before you away from her.
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3. Use the 95% rule. trust your gf 95% of the time but dont give her the whole 100% because any women will cheat. keep your eyes open and keep an eye on her.
Agree, dont take things for GRanted.
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4. Dont let her know you dont trust her 100%. Unless she gives you a reason you cant let her know you dont trust her! you will look insecure and it will push her away...giving trust can work in your favour as well because if she thinks you trust her she will be more of a sloppy cheater....she wont feel the need to hide things because she wont think you are on to her.
He is making a good point here.
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5. dont be jealous ever! it wont do you any good to be jealous will it? no. If shes going to cheat she going to cheat and thers nothing you can do about it....if you catch her then you do somthing about it.


Totaly agree again.
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6. THIS ONE YOU REALLY NEED TO READ! lol dont get with a women who a.) leaves her bf for you. or b.) cheats on her bf with you. why you ask? because she an emotionally unstable women and its only a matter of time until she does it to you.
I'm glad someone else said the same thing I said. You are absolutely right on this. Unless ofcourse if the guy was abusive, disrespectful or she was trapped in a relation or the guy was WUSS.

If you have a woman with integrity she would not cheat. Period.


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Hey believe what you want, but I'm not going to live in a relationship where I think my girlfriend is cheating on me everytime she is not in sight. I'd rather not worry about it and live happy. But think about it. Even if you tell her you don't want her to hang out with him she still is going to. She will probably want to even more because she isn't supposed to. I'd rather let my girlfriend hangout with guys than have her sneak around behind my back. Sure, they may be trying to get in her pants. But she won't let them. And if she does, like I'm said, I'll be glad to find out earlier rather than later.

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there's some really good advice on here


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Hey believe what you want, but I'm not going to live in a relationship where I think my girlfriend is cheating on me everytime she is not in sight. I'd rather not worry about it and live happy. But think about it. Even if you tell her you don't want her to hang out with him she still is going to. She will probably want to even more because she isn't supposed to. I'd rather let my girlfriend hangout with guys than have her sneak around behind my back. Sure, they may be trying to get in her pants. But she won't let them. And if she does, like I'm said, I'll be glad to find out earlier rather than later.
Honestly I dont worry about my gf cheat man and unless you have proof there is no point in stressing about it...but every women has the ability to cheat! dont fool your self bro because I have seen it time and time again. I really dont think my gf would cheat on me but I will never rule it out because I know how women think and the world is not a perfect place. Every ones situation is diffrent so I can judge...but it would be my advice to not let your gf hang out alone with another guy and for you to do the same. Its not controling at all! my gf has the right to tell me she doesnt want me to do somthing and I have the right to do it or not....I usually listen to her because I care about her and want her to be happy. perfect example: I just got a job at a popular bar in town as a bar tender and I would be making amazing money! the only problem is that I would be geting hit on by women left right and center and my gf knows this....she doesnt want me working at the bar so Im not taking that job. Why? because I know it will make her happy and I understand...and I expect that when I need somthing from her she will do the same.

In a healthy relationship its 50/50 and you can both make compromises so that you are both happy. My gf works hard to make me happy and I do the same for her.


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hey guys...i appreciate the input here. i decided that im NOT going to break up with her because she really hasnt given me a reason to. We are still trying to work things out, and she has severely cut back on talking to him and has not seen him since i told her how it made me feel. I trust her, but i have some jealousy issues that i need to work on to make our relationship better. But thats my problem, not hers. Peace

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hey guys...i appreciate the input here. i decided that im NOT going to break up with her because she really hasnt given me a reason to. We are still trying to work things out, and she has severely cut back on talking to him and has not seen him since i told her how it made me feel. I trust her, but i have some jealousy issues that i need to work on to make our relationship better. But thats my problem, not hers. Peace

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Very good. Its good that she respects how you feel and is willing to cut the other guy off. When I said first that she should be concentrating on you, thats exactly what I think she is doing.

Communication and trust is key to a good relationship.

Jealousy can ruin things and glad you realise and are working on it but make sure that you are not taking all the blame for her behaviour.


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