Hello, everyone. Im Zeus for those who dont know me. I been doing this for 2 or 3 years (dont remember exactly). Anyways, through the years I have developed a whole lot of techniques, routines, gambits, openers, etc. So far we've been very secretive about em (by we, I mean me and my wing), mostly because we didnt want them to stop working, but also because we had thought about doing bootcamps in the Bay Area. That doesnt look like its gonna happen any more, and since we arent really very active in the game any more (LTRs and that sorta thing), i figured, why let all the stuff we have go to waste. So, im gonna share it with all you guys.

Btw, I wasnt sure in what category to post this, but I figured newbies have the most to learn, so I put it hear. (Moderators: If i gotta post it somewhere else, or I need get permision or whatever, just let me know)

So here's the first technique Im sharing with everyone: How to exit the friend zone.

Everyone seems to be scared of falling in it, and a lot (if not most) of the guys i've heard from, think that once you fall in it, your in it for good. Well, I've been platonic friends with many girls for long periods of time. Then for whatever reason, I become attracted to the girls. And im talking about girls who have gotten me other girls and who've I've introduced to other guys, so I was clearly in the friend zone with these girls. Just as a point of reference, I have used this about 5 or 6 time, and Its always worked for me. My wing has also used it, but I dont know how many times. Anyways, this is exactly what I've done:

If you really are in the "The Friend Zone", you should be perfectly confortable joking around with her. Therefore, any sexual comments, innuendo's, entondras, etc, should come off as a joke to her. Start making A LOT of these jokes (over a couple days, not in a single conversation. You dont wanna sound creepy). Once confort with these topics is built, you can intensify the conversations. Make it more serious, realistic, personal, and not as funny (still kinda joking though). Here is where the technique is applied though- When you build these senarios where the two of you are involved, at the end of the conversation, make a comment about how its just funny cause you dont see her in that way AT ALL. Make sure you emphasize the "At all". That is the most important part though, so make sure you point that out to her and make sure she takes notice. After about 3 or 4 times of doing this, its gonna be bugging her that you dont find her attractive and she's gonna start fliting with you just to prove she can be attractive. Flirt back, but at the end, throw another comment about how you dont like her to the point where you dont even really see her as a girl. She's practically a guy to you. After like 2, 3 times tops, she's gonna begin to hit on you for reals. And Bam! your out of the friend zone.

From there on, its up to you. If you play it right, you can nail her, or date her, or whatever your trying to do. Just dont make whatever mistake got you in the friend zone to begin with all over again.

Hopefully that helps some of you out there. I'll put up some more post in days to come. If anyone wants examples, or has questions or whatever, feel free to ask

-Zeus

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Very nice Zeus.

It's come 5 years too late for me. Shakes head.

Oh before I knew what to do, I had my case of one-itis and I was in the LJBF zone and I committed every sin under the PUA heaven with a girl who at the time was the greatest girl I had ever met or so I thought at the time. Shakes head again.
As you can imagine I never got out of the zone and I never got with her. You can hold the violin fellas, I'm not her for that because............
Then I read the book 'The Game' and found out about David DeAngelo, Mystery, Style and well now it's a different story. Can't see me falling into the zone again, but if I should, I'll be sure to try out your strategy. Will report back one day with my findings. In fact, your advice will be most useful to pass onto some of my AFC mates.

Good stuff.

Nice contribution Z!

I think a major point of your LJBF out technique that shoudn't be downplayed is that the girl has seen you with other women as well so she knows you have social value and she knows you are a desirable item. If you try this technique on a girl that you've only seen one on one, it might not work (or has it?).

I'm curious if you have, in your arsenal, tips and techniques in solidifying a day 2 after a number close. I think I know some ways to it, but would like your opinion on this.

Cheers!

first off, thanks for the comments and messages and whatnot. Glad to see some people are atleast quazi interested.

now, to address TheJ's first question, all the girls i've used it on I started by seeing them one on one, but after we actually became friends, they just became part of my group of friends. So by the time I actually used the technique on them, I no longer saw them exclusively one on one (although I did still hang out one on one with them every once in a while). But honestly I dont think it would matter. You can always drop in a few DHVs casually if you feel the need to impress her (nothing wrong with trying to impress her btw). But the point of this technique is not as much about getting her to like you as much as it is about you showing her you dont like her.

Getting her to like you comes after; once you are already out of the friend zone. The whole point is to get her to try to prove her attractiveness towards you. Girls dont like being ignored, so when you tell her, she doesnt event hit your hot chick radar, she's gonna be upset and want to do something about it. The trick is to not hit on her during the first round of flirting (cause if you do, then she got what she wanted, and she'll go back to not trying). You gotta be even harsher once she starts to flirt with you, untill you reach the point where she is coming on to you sexually. Once you got that, she's fair game once again.

Oh, and btw, if you are just hanging out with a girl one on one and its only been a couple of times, you might not even be in the friend zone yet, just hurry up and make a move.

As far as your second question, yeah, I have a couple ways I use to secure a Day 2. I'll probably use that as a topic for another post (just cause I dont want to completely change the direction of this thread). I'll post a new technique ona new topics in a couple days. I do have a few topics in mind, but maybe I'll just do it on Scoring a day 2. Either way, Im probably gonna post a new technique about once a week or so. So stay tuned and keep cheking for new techniques and updates.

If anyone else has a question, Im happy to answere.

-Zeus

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