Openers are very easy for me.
I have no problems with talking
to women.

The only issue I have a problem
with, is where do I go after I open
the conversation?

For example:
"I have a friend and he's going out
with this girl that he really likes. She
got a little too wasted at a party and
made out with a girl. Would you consider
that cheating?"

After the opener, the question is
gone and over with--I don't know what
to say after that.

Any suggestions?

I love
how your post
is arranged,ironically
like a haiku.

lol.j/k bro.

Use what she says to continue the convo.

As the conversation process goes:

Create-Send-Receive-Interpret-Repeat.

You create a conversation opener in your head,you go to target and send the message,she receives it,she interprets it,then creates feedback,sends it to you,you receive it,you interpret it,repeat for desired result.

It's like Ping Pong.

Think about it.

Hahaha yeah, I just really
hate it when lines in a post
seem to continue off the
page, so I just try to organize
them into small paragraphs.

I understand what you're saying.
The only problem is that the ping
pong effect won't work all the time.

My worst encounter with this gambit
was:

Me: " (I tell the gambit). "
HB: "Yeah, that's cheating."
Me: "You think so? What makes you
say that?"
HB: "I don't know."

...okay now what?
The conversation is over.

You can be like "you've...done it before, haven't you? made out with a girl I mean" Gradually smiling more and more "It's okay, I have nothing against people who swing that way", that should work, even after she says "i don't know", as long as you control her own facial expression with your smile? It's really not that hard, dude, just improvise. Be careful about where you want to take the relationship though, because if a girl says she has feelings of love for you, chances are she's lying.

That's a great piece of advice.

I'm liking that neg by the
way hahahaha.

I'll try that out.
Thanks, dude.

I like that opener...
If the chick agrees to making out with other chicks in public places. You could always roll your eyes and say "how cliche...do you have a tribal tattoo on your lower back?"

I don't let people off with I don't know answers. "I don't know" is apathy. We are not striving to make women feel apathetic. We are striving for emotion. Push them toward an answer in a fun or teasing way or neg them on their lack of opinions or neg them for being boring, uninteresting, or shy. However, an IDK answer to a stranger is most likely an IOD because she doesn't feel comfortable enough yet. Maybe you haven't perfected the opener itself yet. How many times have you run it and how many of those open and how many return with the IDK response? You're never chained to one place. When first working on openers just worry about openers. Run the opener, wait for a response, and then leave and open another set. If you drop FTCs then this looks natural and makes you seem like you have an I don't give a fuck attitude.

You:You dont know,and yet you accuse me of cheating?Hmmm...I dont think this is going to work.

Calibration holmes.

Keep talking to a lot of people,and you will get used to impromptu gaming,which is essential.

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hahahaha I laughed out loud..

And nice advice there. If you find the conversation starting to dwindle, don't be the guy that just stands there and goes "err.. sooo......" and creates an awkward silence. When going into the set, make sure you chuck in a time constraint, so if the convo is started to die out, you can get out of there, leaving it possible to come back later if you compose yourself.

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Wow, those are all great replies.
Thanks guys lol I didn't think I
would get this much feedback.

Well this opener I've tried quite
often, and it works most of the
time. I have no problem opening
the sets.

It's juss that sometimes, I get
"those girls" that just don't give
a shit and seem to give one-word
answers. So I was just seeing
what I could do to keep it going.

All of that sounds great, thanks for
all the help, fellas.

well im really new to all this pua and was just reading all these comments and understand that when a girl says IDK back you just seem to freeze and BAM...akward silence.

would a answer back to any IDK answers be something like "wow your boring" then start to turn around to walk off.

you think she might stop you and engage in a convo cuz that would seem like i negged her right? would any neg do?

or she might not engage you in a 'convo' and you've just lost her. If your really that afraid of IDK's then get a shirt that has a flashing LED sign that says something bizare on it, that way even if shes looking straight ahead you can assume shes looking at your shirt then talk to her about it.

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What a title!