Hi, I've been studying the words of a nlp routine all day and i feel myself being in an altered state, it's kinda freaky. What can i do to prevent this? or get myself out of this? it's no use falling for my own tricks when i'm in the field, and it might blow off my concentration. how do u deal with it?

Which pattern were you memorizing?
What was the altered state like?

RJ said that you need to feel the feelings that are in the pattern when you say it for it to be effective. But he also said your intensity of feelings should be less than the girl's so that you can stay in control.

I have heard from lots of guys that they oftentimes fall into a trance along with the girl when they do SS.

this was the pattern from ross jeffries. It is my first one as i havent got much material yet.
I came up with the intro myself, jeffriess starts out different.

Rollarcoaster

"It's very important to be passionate about something, like I've got a girlfriend who lives in l.a. who is studying to design rollarcoasters for amusementparks. Yeah, she's got this whole philosofy about it. It changed my whole way of thinking about rollarcoasters and attractions.
Just the science behind it is fascinating.

She said when u just stop and imagine your ideal attraction. there are three elements.
She said first, there is that feeling of anticipation. when u r in the cart and u r starting that first...long...vertical climb.
and u can FEEL YOUR HEART POUNDING WITH EXITEMENT...FEEL THE BLOOD RUSHING TO YOUR MUSCLES...your breathing comes faster and faster...and then you feel that rush when you are GOING DOWN.

She said the second element is, there's gotta be a sense of overall safety. You know that this ride is so welldesigned that u wont get hurt, and because u feel so safe, u feel completely free to indolge in every one of those exciting feelings.

but also, the ride has to be fascinating. There has to be so many different twists and turns, so much unpredictability here... that as soon as you get off, you want to climb right back on. You want to take this ride multiple times.

She said, it's just like the perfect attraction being built between two people. It's what u want in a guy.

Because if u imagine what it feels like, to meet somebody you really want to be with. And u wonder, really wonder. What is it about u that would make this person come back for more. What would u do to let those feelings get stronger? Is that something that just bubbles beneath the surface or is it something that arises as u take action on those desrires?

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I repeated it several times to memorize it and i started to feel as if i was in a dream, like i was in love without a subject. It stayed like that for long. although i was really wondering if it was because i was in front of my screen for too long or if it was the pattern.

Do you have any experience in the field with this? I'd like to hear from someone who has learned it and how difficult it was.

Wuzz
Why wouldn't you want to be in the same state as the girl ?
After all, that's what you're really hunting for.

Going into the state will even empower her trance as it will have the same effects as pacing/leading, and when you're both high as kites and intensely connected, there's no way you're not going to anchor it to tons of stuff, so that it can be easily triggered the next time you and she get to business.


Seriously, all this shit about how to put someone in a trance without going into one yourself is counter-productive.



If you start going, practice going even deeper. Then pace your trance to hers and lead her deeper, and deeper, and deeper, until you're both so deep "the rivers are going to weep, and the mountains going to shout "Amen!"" (as L.Cohen put it)


Learn to go into these states without the words, and soon enough you'll be able to simply pace and lead her into the same state whilst talking about mundane shit like the weather.

Cheers

Ok, i run the routine on a canadian singer that was hired to sing in a hotel in warsaw. it worked very well. i saw the changes in her eyes as i run the patterns. she couldnt resist. felt good
fucked her within 3 hours of meeting her.

I know what you mean, I'm learning some of RJ stuff + covert hypnosis, and I realized that I go in to trance when I study it or when I compose some pattern myself. The freakiest thing that happened to me yesterday. During one of my university course, i started to go in a trance, where is was totally lost in my head, while listening to the teacher.
What was happening was that I was trying to find another meaning to the words of the teacher rather then just linking his words to the subject of the course.

So to stop all this, I decided to stop working on nlp and hypnosis for the duration of my course and go back to be "out of my head" as often as possible.

I hope this helps.

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Looking for serious wingman in Montreal.

I had this too in school, it's called boring teacher syndrom

You're always in trance.

There's nothing that's not 'trance'.

Now, when you experience even the most slightly altered state, a person can begin to recognise that consciousness is a spectrum, and not a category.

Some of the best teachers will utilise boredom in order to fractionate between states and take subjects even deeper than they already were.

With me, I reckon SS is the absolute ultimate.
Its NOT for theorists!

You're always in trance.

There's nothing that's not 'trance'.

Now, when you experience even the most slightly altered state, a person can begin to recognise that consciousness is a spectrum, and not a category.

Some of the best teachers will utilise boredom in order to fractionate between states and take subjects even deeper than they already were.

With me, I reckon SS is the absolute ultimate.
Its NOT for theorists!

Learn to dance in the trance, the deeper you can go the deeper you can lead.