Yeah I know this is pathetic, but I'm seriously at wits end here trying to figure out how to overcome AA. I can game when a girl talks to me or when I know someone, but I have never been able to really open a random person.

I got into reading this stuff during a bad relationship with a girl who was really more of a pua than I am. She was dating multiple guys and said I should date multiple girls and I was kind of like damn well ok how do I do that. So I found the seduction community.

I have always been a painfully shy person. Just a year ago I was unable to speak to cashiers or look any girls, even friends, in the eye. So in that sense, I've gotten a lot better because during interactions I appear pretty relaxed and confident. I just can not open.

I have tried all the newbie missions. I can do the say hi one where I just walk around looking girls in the eye and saying hi. However, this is completely different from actually opening to me. Every time I go out to try, I see the first set and come up with some reason why I shouldn't open (i.e. she's not good enough, she's with her mom, she looks to busy, etc.). And then I go through all the affirmations in my head like if I don't do this I'll never get this handled or every girl wants random guys to approach her (note I'm 17 so I only do day game, not clubs), but by that time I've gotten into the habit of being completely mute and I can't approach. I know that I've never really been more prepared to do something in my life, yet I can't do it. Can anyone offer me a suggestion to just destroy this. Oh and something other than drugs or alcohol lol. Thanks a lot and sorry that was really long.

dude i dont blame you. Even the best ever pua's sometimes have AA when encountering a hot HB. Its natural and you have to except it. Cause every one of your buddies have it. i promise. AA can cripple your game if u let it. my advice: take a workshop or purchase thestylelife challenge. it slowly works on missions for guys who have never approached a girl in his life. hope this helps

MAXXIM

Maxxim has a good point, stylelife does help with AA (i have the book and it kind of takes small steps on approaching and focuses on getting your innergame sorted before you approached) i have to say when i was doing the missions for that i had little AA

i am experiencing the same feeling SPAM tho, i am approaching alot less often and not improving my game n overcoming stickys because of this. so i have been giving myself missions, i.e opening on a bus, or today i will at least open 3 sets.
i realised that every approach i didnt make, i hated myself for not doing it, which then fooks wi ya inner game, thus effecting your outer game. there are alot of theories where AA comes from, some say its evolutionary and helped survival thousands of years back, some others say its due to the expectation of being rejected and has somthing to do with previous experience.
i think its a bit of both, at the end of the day it is a fear, and any fear can be overcome.

i realsied it was a much beter feeling actualy approaching, rather than not, even if i crashed and burned i still felt good about the fact that i approached. the only way to conqour a fear is to face it head on, just plow through it, use the 3 second rule. the more you approach, the faster you will overcome AA

You're 17, you're young. Don't obsess with this stuff that much.

I'm watching Pickup 101 Charismatic Conversations DVD. I would really recommend it in your situation because I'm the same way and it is really helping me. It's very simple stuff that doesn't make you over think. I have watched a few other videos from other PUA's and this guy seems to explain everything the best so far and makes you focus on just a couple of things instead of giving you 100 techniques to try out.

Ok well I got the stylelife challenge and I'll work with that. I'll also check out that DVD.

And yeah I know I'm young, but, although I can't be sure about this, I think it may be even worse being extremely unsuccessful in highschool/college just because I have to watch so many people get girls and hear all the annoying gossip about who slept with who. It's mainly just a confidence issue not really game at this point I guess, but I just want to get this handled so I don't have to worry about it later.

You kinda answered your own question.

One of the best ways to meet girls etc is through connections, girls are more likely to let you molest them if one of their friends knows you, they will feel safer talking/letting you isolate them. Through this you can gain more confidence and then eventually take on the randoms that will have their bitch shield up, and you will have the confidence.

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I can answer this i am 16 and beat most of my anxiety at 14

ok firstly these methords may seem unorthodox but trust me they work just read my screen name the name is the character

1st... start off with something simple go to the busiest place you can ( i live in london so thats not really an issue)
And now we do something very strange "do a strange voice and begin shouting or asking people mad things"
I personally like to do a victorian accent "what-o" "pip pip" etc

people will stare but fuck it have fun i know i do it works better if your with a freind even if they dont do it

this is just to help you relax around strangers


2nd... bring a freind with you and go around asking random people questions example "excuse miss can i ask does this shirt make me look gay" it doesnt have to be this but that one is always fun

this will have you talking to people

3rd...do the same as 2 but target individuals you would aspire to target when in pua mode

4... add to 3 ask the same question but break into conversation with the person example " really because everyone tells this shirt makes me look gay and thats just not right as i like both peoples blah blah blah" just be jokey and funny

5...converse, escalate, get some numbers you will find how to do this elsewhere

but this worked for me and its just so much fun to do in public


BONUS TIP i always walk around as if i am the greatest thing on earth i actually tell my freinds the planets orbit me etc this is all in fun but it does give me a little ego boost

This is why I turn to alcohol after work in London.

No seriously, fair enough if this works for you.

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Wow that does sound crazy, but maybe it'll work for me. Once I get out of bed after recovering from this surgery I'm going to try some of this stuff. I've read waaaaay too much PU stuff while I've been laying around here.

I'm still working on AA too. However, I have found a few tips.

One thing I like to do before leaving the house is watch a couple pickup videos, to get you into that pickup mindset. Then listen to a really good song that gets you pumped up, and feeling courageous. do the same thing in the car to your destination. when you get to your destination, have a "just do it" attitude. It usually takes me a while to do the first approach. So what I do is, I be really observant. Eventually an easy opener will show it's face. for example, I was in the book store and I saw a girl looking at spark notes. I laughed at how easy that one was. I just walked right up to her, and teased her about not reading her book. afterward, you should have a little high from the interaction, so IMIDEATELY find a new target.

If your still having problem with 1 approach, think of it as a video game. an RPG to be more specific. If you want to level up, you need experience points. Also have the mindset that you don't need the girl herself, you are merely doing this for yourself.

Another thing to try is, to go out specifically to sarge. Tell yourself, that you cannot leave until you have done 3 approaches. Then hold yourself to that. Eventually you will want to go home, so then your approaches will be less stressful, because you just want to leave.

Here's the money maker!

I forgot who I got this from, but try this out with a friend.
Get $100 in 20s. Then give them to your friend. instruct him to point out a girl for you to approach. IF you approach her, he gives you one of the 20s. If you don't approach, he keeps one of the 20s.

Try 'em out!

really? i used to try that but thinking about pua stuff made me overthink everything

i thaught it was better to clear your mind and relax

You're right. What I mean is to watch a video or two for inspiration. That's just what I do. If it's not for you, then don't do it.

Here's one of the ways I break AA, dunno if this has ever been used in a MPUA method book or anything, just something I did on my own once.

It was simple, all I did was pick a night where I would go out and open every set I thought had a worthy target in it with the understanding that I would bomb out. If I set my mind up that I was going to fail before I went in, I really had nothing to lose. For me, it's all the worrying that I might mess up and fail that gets me stressed, so if I go in assuming that I'll just get rejected, it's no big deal. I do this every once in a while and just have a good laugh at how rude some people are, and at the same time I'm shocked to see how often the conversation goes in a good direction and I can get a number.

Try taking the stress out of approaching. Go out and fail a lot first!

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Awesome thanks to all of you. Well I finally did it. I opened a couple of sets. I know it isn't much (especially since I ejected right after the openers haha) but it really wasn't that bad and after this weird sort of out of body feeling for the first second or so I felt pretty comfortable.

The reason I ejected I guess is that I just kind of forgot everything after running the opener. Like I could rehearse routines and strategies in my sleep, but I just forgot it all. Well I guess I just need practice... baby steps!

Thanks again. I think after everything it was just to get the just do it attitude and think I'm doing it for my own good.