Hey you great wonderful sexy people of the forum

I have been sarging a few months now, and my success has really got much better since learning, but was in the bath 2day thinking about it (no not in that way) and I think its mainly because of the confidence I had built and not being scared to have a conversation, to show interest, and the alpha male principle etc, I dont think the gimmicks have really helped me out alot, So iv been the last few hours reiding as much natural related game up as I can, I thought about it, and I think human interaction is natural it HAS to be natural sure the gimmicks can give something interesting to show, but apart from that your talking and being you.

Its hard to explain but feel I have the tools but im missing a big part out of the puzzle, or im over complicicating it, I ran few good sets other night in the club, my AFC friend pulled on the DF it put it in perspective for me, maybe im overcomplicating human interaction and bringing a gun with no bullets...

I know ultimatly im the only one who can help myself with constant work which im planning on but wondered whats the most important sticking points you natural gamers use, I know one natural gamer and he said inner state, any info would be highly appreciated. god bless. Knuckles. x

Hey glad to hear that you're having a good time with all of this! I also think that natural and inner game is WAY more important than canned openers and anything along those lines. You can use a canned opener, but if you don't use it naturally then she WILL notice and you will crash&burn.

A majority of the human identity is geared to be attracted towards natural things. Evolutionary psychology would say that we humans have evolved to prove that "natural is best" (ex: healthy food vs processed foods). One is good for us and our body takes it in a way that responds positively to it. We have no control over that. But at the same time our bodies take in unnatural things in a negative way (again which we have no control over). I think the same goes for social interaction, like what you were talking about. Human interaction IS natural and most of the time we can differentiate between natural (friendliness, being funny, down-to-earth) vs unnatural (gimmicky, seductive, awkward, trying to hard).

*shift behind against a wall*

No seriously you are in the same situated I was about 2 years ago, I came across The Game which led to reading everything I could find on the topic, going out 6 times a night learning how people work and then boom.

I tried going out with none of the lines, wearing stupid knecklaces, shirts that made me look like a pimp or Pacino from Scarface, and guess what I never looked back. Through building confidence over the year from all the canned lines etc I had developed the utter unshakable confidence to just approach as I had got through the anxiety fear of rejection and from then onwards just found that not over doing it was the best approach.

Its harder, but it is more interesting, fun and hits home really as you do not have to pretend your gay, dieing, just been arrested, just seen a fight (insert all 1,0000000 lines).

Being a PUA was all about improving yourself, some people think getting laid is the end goal!
No! It is about one man e.g. Neil Strauss (Style) going from a nobody who cannot even hold a conversation with another man let alone the target women (I hope it is women from your first comment), and becoming a better and more likeable you (think Tyler Durden), you are creating a better you that will just captivate men/females/midgets etc you name it, and you will like yourself through not lieing to people through fake lines.


Summarise: You are making a F**king great choice-if you can pull it off.

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Hey dude,

this is pretty much what has happened to me. I read loads, have done a bit but feel that I am a long way from becoming the ultimate "me" that i can be.

Some years ago, I was a guy who had next to no confidence, was full of fears and guilt and god knows what else. Now this year pretty much thanks to Mysterys book my life has turned around in many respects. I am approaching girls and although like i say, not half as good as I want to be, I reckon nobody goes from afc to MPUA in one step anyhow.
your progress depends on how often you are willing to bite the bullet and approach.

glad to hear you are progressing bro.

HAHA yes it is women, thanks alot guys, its just to be honest i feel in a rut with my game at the moment, i do approaches, ppl say I have little AA I did an 11 set for the hell of it last night, its just i dunno if u guys have ever felt the same way where u cant put your finger on it, and I feel like I might be overcomplicating myself and trying to take the long way round, thanks for your awesome advice. Knuckles