Hey people! Well I'm going out with a HB 9 / and I got approved by all her friends except 2 and these are her best freands. They told her to break up with me? Telling her she can get better. Now my gf is that tpe of that girl that spends more time with her friends than me. And when I'm with her friends she pretty much avoids me and ignores me. So for me to be alone with her is hard. Anyways, what I did was able to be with her in a place were you can see the hole veiw away from the city and made it into a romantic place. And created an emotional conection we talked. I was telling her that y dusent her freands can b happy 4 her that she haves some1 that loves her and cares about her. And that real friend would be happy for that. Anyways well I made her friends look a little bad. Was that a good thing to do??????

Anyways well what can I do about her friends? And how what can I do about this problem. Another question I broke up with hb a week ago and she ask me back out. Does that mean she really wants to be with me? She never asked a guy out,? Anyways if u all think yeah.? Idk why she avoids me alot when she's with her friends. Should I start isolating her more?and make her be more with me then her friends?!!!!!!! Plz let me know what you all think. By the way sorry for my bad grammer. I really have to work on it.

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be a man and tell her you don't like when she ignores you when she's with her friends for a start.

This is a big red flag man!!!! You need her friends respect because a womens friends are her back bone 99% of the time. If they dont like you they will encourage her to cheat ect ect...you need to get in her friends good books and show them that you are a good guy! tell your gf you want to hang out with her and her friends and be very nice to them, show them who you really are, and be a gental men. If she has questions about being with you then kick her to curb! If my gf told me she is not sure or any thing close to that I would tell her "thers the door I know how I feel and If you dont your loss".

I think you did the right thing by telling her how it is. And now you should do what dark_one says and get in good with her friends too.

They sound pretty superficial to me, but they can be treated just like any girl - getting them to talk about themselves and gradually becoming interested in what they have to say. And overall trying to have fun.

.you need to get in her friends good books and show them that you are a good guy! tell your gf you want to hang out with her and her friends and be very nice to them, show them who you really are, and be a gental men.


In my opinion, F*CK her friends AND her if she doesn't start showing him some respect. Ignoring him when they are around? Hell no.

Why should he supplicate for their approval? Who the hell are they? If he can raise her IL high enough, her friends opinions won't count for much. If they do, good, he can use it to his advantage by providing her with a little drama that she often craves.

The last thing he needs to do is show them (or any girl for that matter) is he is a 'good guy', or gentleman because we all know damn well that those traits don't get a guy laid. If you want to get your balls stepped on, being nice will get you there QUICKLY.

Note: Nothing personal against your post dark one...

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I understand were you are coming from but winning friends over is much diffrent then the pua game in many ways. If her friends bad mouth you then it lowers your status as an alpha male and leader....are you trying to sleep with her friends? no. your trying to get on their good side and as much as it sucks being nice to them might be the only way. Keep your friends close and your enimies closer!

When I met my gf friends I observed carefully which ones wer most influential in her life...I then looked at why their opinion matters more then somone eles and what kind of person they are. I hang out with my gf and her friends all the time and let me tell you geting on their good side can come in handy in more than one way! who does she run to when she feels hurt? her best friends. You need to create some sort of bond with her good friends so that they have your back because let me tell you the second you slip up and do somthing wrong rather then tell her "he's a good guy give him a chance" they will make you sounds 100000% worse! and tell her your the scum of scum!

Go out with her gf's, buy them a round of drinks and make a toast to them, show them how much fun you are, and let them see how much your gf means to you and how much you care about her....they might change their minds.

If you hang out with them, show them who you really are, treat them with respect ect ect and they still dont like you then at that point you need to stand up for your self and say fuck them. Your gf at that point can choose you or her friends but I will warn you that in most cases she will end up choosing her friends.

i disagree with you.

i think dark one is right

when you lose the support of her friends, you are going to ahve a tuff time in the relationship. when you get in a fight and she is wrong, her friend are gonna say she is right cause THEY DON"T LIKE YOU. contrast that with a situation where they do like you, but she is actually right... the friends will prob tell her that she is over reacting and she should apologize to you.

you don't have to be a "good guy" or "gentleman" to win over her friends. he just needs to game them like a pua. seriously. one just needs to be a pua, and tease them, use c&f, and DHV around them when appropriate.

I completely agree with Sexcellent on this one. I've had this situation many times as an AFC as well as a PUA and the best solution is to game them like a PUA so that they are respecting you. Bring out that Alpha male and use all your skills of pick up to get the friends respect.

thanks all of u4 evry 1 opinion / well this to girls r bitches to MRI tray being nice and nop.... So now what

This sounds very high school. Are you perhaps in high school?

In the adult world, women don't need to get approval from their friends to date a guy. In the adult world women and men can listen to the opinions of their friends and family and regardless of what those people say can make their own decisions.

You should tell the girl exactly that, and that if she can't make the decision on her own to be with you that you are going to put her in the friends zone while you find a more mature woman. If you put it to her like that she may try to validate herself to you by trying to become the more mature woman.

I think that is the missing piece to the puzzle Clozer (the adult world v.s. high school). But, either way, being ignored by this girl while she is with her friends is unacceptable. That should not fly with a guy at any age.

I had the same outlook in High School and it served me well. But hey, that's just me.

Excuse my horrible grammar in my previous post.

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Friends are key, she probably did not appreciate you talking about her friends like that but you should make an extra effort, do you know why they do not like you that would be a start!

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You kidding me right? women dont care what their friends think???? yes they do their women lol you should all know by now that even women are shallow but in diffrent ways then men....women want status, power, ect ect and men for the most part want looks. If you dont have a womens friends on your side then you wont get with her period and If you do it wont last long because she will 1) stay with you until she feels she found somthing better and then cheat, or 2) she will just strait up cheat on you.

I have said this a million times! women dont think like us at all! We are logical creatures and women are emotional. What makes sens to a man does not make sens at all to a women and yes she will listen to what her friends have to say whether she is 16, 26, or 36....doesnt matter the only thing that changes is that in highschool women judge you on how cool you are and when your 36 women judge you on your job, car ect ect ect....

It would be nice to think that women dont care what their friends say when you grow up but that simply is not the truth and its very AFC to think that way.