Honestly guys, if you want to improve your inner game, you can't do it alone. The absolute best thing you can do is to sit down with someone and ask them to give you a 100% honest opinion of what they think of you, and how you can change.

I did this with 2 people that I know-- and notice that I said "people that I know" and not "friends". I asked people who don't necessarily like me too much, and they gave me the absolute best feedback I could have gotten-- it was worth more than I could have learned from doing 100 approaches.

In fact, my favorite approach so far was when I hit on a girl who turned out to be a lesbian! I actually wasn't disappointed at all-- I saw it as an opportunity. I explained to her what I was trying to work on with PUA training, and I asked her if she could give me an honest opinion of the first impression I gave off. We ended up talking for 20 minutes, and I received incredibly valuable information (plus it's always great to know lesbians).

If you can get the balls to be completely honest and vulnerable with those around you, it will change your inner game drastically. Improving your frame is one of THE hardest things to do, and it can go terribly wrong when you try to gauge it all yourself.

Let me know if any of you other guys try this, I guarantee that you will learn something about new about yourself and the way others perceive you.

I dont know man. For people with inner game issues I dont think thats a very smart good thing to do because it can make the person feel even worse. What if you ask them for the opinion and they say all bad things about you and no good things then you can feel like shit and start thinking everyone sees you that way therefore you start acting that way. I suggest that as the last piece of the puzzle to work on your inner game. I dont know maybe its just me but I wouldnt want to go up to anyone and ask their opinion about me because I dont know what the outcome might be. I might get really hurt. I might try it out but for sure not very soon.

Well the point of this whole exercise is to be able to look at yourself objectively. The way you are perceived by people has nothing to do with who you really are as a person, it is just an issue of miscommunication, and for that reason you shouldn't take the opinions of others as a personal blow-- instead you should see a challenge that you are now ready to overcome.

The reason this is so hard is because it's potentially hurtful to you as a person, but that's also why it can help you so much. Trying to improve your inner game with out knowing exactly WHAT you are improving is like trying to take shots in the dark.

I completely understand reservations about doing this, but all I'm saying that is if you can bring yourself to do it, you will learn a lot of info. Recognizing your own social flaws is really hard to do-- but personally, I would rather know what's wrong with me and fix it than keep myself in the dark.