Punching an AMOG in the face...good or bad?



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:51 am 
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I had this happened to me b4 i had this punk slap me once not hard but idc i immediately told him dnt do it again or ima fuck ure shyt up , good thing i wasnt in a set with women
You could have said thats so immature dude if ure gay and u like me thats kool but stop doing that , i knoe you like me i dnt like you like that hands off the Merchandise
Since it was more then once any comment or hint of him being gay would of fucked his game up , i knoe you like men but i dnt go that route , ure starting to creep me out dude , also u could have done the HANCOCK - I DARE YOU TO DO IT AGAIN
Overall i think you did great

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Manda Chuva- I like the whole "i don't swing that way" route.

you guys are giving me gold here. I definitely won't be beating up another AMOG for a whle. :D


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I have to agree with everyone else here; it was def called for. & girls LOVE guys that demonstrate they can physically protect themselves and others. it's logical & a fundamental part of their evolutionary heritage


however, if you don't think you can take a physically aggressive AMOG just bring some of your friends into the set, preferably one's that train for UFC/Elite-XC style fighting. I've been working on the fundamentals (about 10 techniques) w/ a friend also into mixed martial arts for about a month. just stuff like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JtzJ0Wf ... annel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwavnzKt ... annel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5YTMcBX ... annel_page

it takes a while to drill the stuff into ya but if you do it every day it starts to become second nature. it's also a great DHV for girls, bros & AMOGs


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Glad to know I have 7 years of martial arts behind my belt before starting to learn that PUA stuff :) .


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I'd be surprised if you can punch out an AMOG and still close effectively, just cos girls recoil from violence so it's like two pigs rolling in shit in front of them. Doesn't matter if he started it.

That said, nice one. He still deserved the punch. I'd rather fight and lose the set, than just stand and be punked out. I've not had the experience of this to advise authoritatively (I've done boxing, kickboxing, BJJ and MMA and it's carried into my posture so I don't get physically AMOGed). Some ideas:

1. Instead of punching in the face after the third time, how about just slap him back after the first time and say "That's all you get. I don't like gay slap games"

2. If you can set up the shot, throw a hard short shovel uppercut into his ribs on the side away from the view of the girls. This all depends on the physical positioning. The idea is to hit him so that it really fucking hurts him but doesn't look like much to an observer. A hard body shot looks a lot less violent to observers than a soft head shot. But only do this if you think you can take him and don't mind losing the set if he escalates back.

3. If you sense him going for it, put up a fence and push him back hard with your extended arm. Search youtube for "Geoff Thompson Fence" to get examples. Protects you and doesn't look violent.

4. After the first time, say "That's one cheek. Try the second" and stand in an exaggerated fighting pose (for humour) but really give him the murderer's stare. If he does try it, it's easily blocked and say something like "Fucking clueless mate, you couldn't hit the side of a barn with a handful of salt".

5. After the first slap, turn to the girl and say "Do you mind if I spark this prick?" and then look at him like you mean it. She'll probably say not to, so smile and say "Well, in that case you'll have to keep me away from him" and isolate a little. If she says she doesn't mind you hitting him, tell him "There goes the one barrier between you and a slapping"

In each case, you'd have to show heryou're not actually angry or out of control you just need to solve a technical problem of how to deal with this irritation, and then go back to gaming like he's an irrelevance.


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Krauser: i guess i just need to get bigger so no one wants to mess with me. my friends all know i'm not afraid to mess someone's day up, but some random AMOG doesn't know that.
also, for what i did, i think i did it very well. I was running the best friends test and that doucher was the last thing on my mind, so he came up from behind and gave me a slap without any warning. I looked calmly at the girls for about 1.5 seconds, put a finger up to excuse myself for a second, turned around calmly and delivered the hardest punch i could directly to his lower cheek/jaw area.

I do see your point of the two pigs rolling in shit. and thats why i try not to fight, and usually i wouldn't i was just feeling quite alpha that night. I figured i was going to lose that set if i kept getting AMOG'd and i might lose it if i fight the guy....so i took the funner of the two routes :)


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And this is the exact reason i am bulking.

I am glad you hit him, i would have done the same thing

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yeah man gotta have a the physical scare too...
i hate being the skinny guy that doesnt seem like he cant do much.


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I'd be surprised if you can punch out an AMOG and still close effectively, just cos girls recoil from violence so it's like two pigs rolling in shit in front of them. Doesn't matter if he started it.
I don't understand why so many puas say that girls are turned off by fighting/violence. I once beat the shit out some asshole in high school in front of 80+ people and the next day I was getting IOIs like crazy, w/ girls that were at the fight excitedly talking to other girls about what happened.

I think girls are animals; they say they hate violence but in reality nothing gets a girl wet like a guy that can beat the shit out of any scumbag that fucks with him (or with her). Girls get insulted by (and scared by) scumbags all the time; a guy that can protect her is a logic & emotional choice. On top of that, they're evolutionary designed to seek out a guy that can physically dominate others so as to protect both herself and her future children from danger.


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I really like the above mentioned 3 strike rule. I personally have never had anyone get physical with me but I would probably follow the prescribed steps.

Assuming this guy doesn't have 15 guys larger than you standing around him, and he gets physical:

1.) "Whoa, I didn't realize we were in the stone age, haha. Does he hit you guys over the head with a club when you aren't looking?" (Or some witty remark letting him know that what he is doing is not ok and to stay in with the girls)

2.) "Seriously man, this is unnecessary. Step off." Or any sort of serious response that will let him know that there is no more tolerance for that behavior.

3.) If he had been messing with my face this whole time, I prolly would have punched him in the throat. If he was just pushing me, I would ignore him and tell the girls we should find someplace more suitable for a conversation and escorted them away. By this point I would imagine that they would be intolerant of his actions too.

Going straight to violence will make you look worse to your target, they are, after all, his friend or his friend's friend first. Let him tool himself out first. Assuming he's not massive, it's actually better to let him throw the first actual punch. If you can block and counter and look badass, do it. If you get hit, he'll seriously tool himself out and you now have a peacocking black eye story.

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4. After the first time, say "That's one cheek. Try the second" and stand in an exaggerated fighting pose (for humour) but really give him the murderer's stare. If he does try it, it's easily blocked and say something like "Fucking clueless mate, you couldn't hit the side of a barn with a handful of salt".


I REALLY like this from the above post.

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Although I'm an alpha male because of my size... (6'5 220 lbs) This is one time where the dude was crossing the line. I definitely would have risked losing the set just to knock that fucker out.

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When an alpha male is trying to fight you most likely he is intimidated by you're presence , theres many ways to avoid it tht is if u want too .

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I'm actually pretty impressed that you managed to sock this guy in the face and still get the girl's # - that being said, this guy was apparently a HUGE prick which is why you got away with it.

Firstly, when you approach a mixed set, you should always win over the guys first. Keep an eye on each others boundaries and figure where you should or should not step. If your target is the same as his, he will either AMOG you or back off.

If he begins to AMOG you (and is getting super physical like slapping you), you need to respond in the same manner. Punching a guy in the face at a club will get you THROWN OUT and BANNED. What you should have done is put your arm around the guy's neck, pulled him in for a headlock and been like "This guy is awesome! I love this dude!" and pinched the fuck out of his cheeks. Not only are you getting back at him for slapping you, you're showing that you're not getting overly affected by his amogging. Not to mention you are lowering his social value by physically stating your dominance.

You punched and tackled the guy so you obviously have the balls to do something along these lines.

Despite all this - way to kick that mother fucker's ass! He had it coming.

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I'm not sure how I would have handled this one. I'm kinda small but it doesn't stop me from brawling. I had a friend die in a bar fight so I am a lot more cautious when it comes to stuff like this. In my younger days I would have knocked him out, so I think you did the right thing. Now I would try something a little more slick like saying:

"Only bitches slap..." and wink at him with a serious face then maybe crack a grin and roll your eyes back onto the target or whatever set you are working on. Be ready for him to either slap again or possibly throw a punch. If he doesn't, you have successfuly dropped him to beta.


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