There is this HB7 who is my roommate's friend who I have hung out a few times with, but always in the company of other friends. She acts extremely confident, aggressive and defensive and I'm attracted to her but not really sure how to attract her since she is so intimidating.

Sometmes if I insult her even slightly, for example one time I sarcasticly said "yea right" to her, and she threw a big "fuck you" right at me. She displays snippy comebacks like this to other of her guy friends, so it is not just me. And it isn't like she is laughing when she says this, it seems very defensive.

Or other times she gives intense eye contact, not necessarily an IOI, but after I make a certain comment she gives this challenging glare. It is very hard not to break her death stare, and it is intimidating as hell.

Anyways, she seems very confident and off-put, and I don't know how to break her down to my level or attract her. But at the same time I get her to laugh a lot and am able to joke around and have fun with her, and appear somewhat confident and comfortable.

Does anyone have any advice on how to attract her with her confident attitude? Is this what is called a bitch shield?

Grow some balls, start breaking that shit down. If you feel shes attracted to you then get her aside and explain to her that in order for you to build rapport shes gotta get that sand outta her vagina.

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'Oh my, you sir are the Moriarty of self awareness and personnal refelection'

What a title!

I was going to suggest that you should maybe pull her aside and say;

"I can tell you something about you that no one else can. You look and act confident and strong on the outside, but inside you are really fragile, delicate and frightened of what other people think of you. There have been guys who have made you feel this way and that is why you dont let anyone in."

Even though this could probably work, there is a big chance that it could totally backfire. you would have to say this relaxed, with a normal voice (do NOT lean in or whisper) and judge her reaction. It could be a breakdown into tears and a massive hug which now you can work with ass you have DHV for youself and lowered her huge ego. On the other hand....she could punch you out the window.

Your call


- Memento

Everything said above. DON'T BE INTIMIDATED.

My advice is - neg her about her behavior. When she "FUCK YOU!"'s again, simply say "I couldn't help myself but I noticed your aggressive behavior. How do you even have friends? DAMN, I'd never be with a girl like you are! I guess that you will chase the "Mr. Right" right away. Maybe you even chased him away!" Don't approve her bad behavior towards you. Definitely, DON'T get intimidated! Be in control!

Carpe Diem.

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You don't know the future, you can't change the past. The only thing that matters is THE CURRENT MOMENT.

i had an ex like that ... everytime i would see her she would rip me to shreds in the most aggresive way and i was scared to throw alt back at her.
then not so long ago i went out and she was there with her bf.. having a go as usual. tryin to make me feel small and unwanted . then i thought to myself.. wait a sec im ment to be the amog here not my ex-bird! so i spent the night on my toes throwing the wittiest remarks back and ,not tryin to make her upset but tring to make ppl laugh at the way she was acting, and it worked.

all of a sudden she came up to me and appologised for actin like a bitch, hugged me then asked if she could sit and talk to me. i was like, 'yeah sure' and then she started telling me all her problems so i had to swich to comfort. but afta a while i thought 'god this is my ex' and made an excuse to leave before anything i would regret was done...


so basicly if this hb is negging u... fuckin neg her back man...and good luck.

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Gammbit

I'm new so I will most definatly take peoples word when they are more experienced than me, but don't all girls know that anyway? I am friends (by choice) with some girls that are considered hot, but just aren't my type. This has given me insight into a girls head and life that has lead me to believe that all girls are insecure, almost crazy (side note: also gross, burp fart stuff they will never let us see). If girls are always approached, they've never experience cold rejection. I tried to get this girl to approach her crush, she couldn't bring herself to do it; she continued to be around and hang out (it's remarkably similar to AFC behavior).
Back to the point: You message may not be new to them, so if I ever had to use this phrase, I wouldn't lose the first sentence; it makes it seem like it's a big deal you know something obvious. I'm not challenging your technique in the least but can't you imagine this in a more blunt/concerned tone saying.
"If you learn to be yourself around me we could have some fun." I haven't had the need to use it, but I would feel more comfortable using it; it feels less canned because it's simple enough that it should be how you really feel.

If she said "fuck you" id say something like

Wow... potty mouth

or

Lady-like...


Then again, i would never really want to pursue a woman who talks like theyre still in middle school

-fuzz