Whats up guys I'm in need of some massive PUA help from guys forreals.

I'll tell you the scenario and background real quick.



I'm 18 not bad looking and i don't have trouble getting looks from girls. BUT i just can't seem to get the girls i want. For example, lets say I know some girl and i try getting at them, i seem to screw it up somehow.

heres an example:

Me and this one chick have been kinda flirting for a while but i never made a bold move (yeah first bad...i just started this PUA stuff gimme a break). Anyways now that i grew some balls i ask her to hang out and stuff and its pretty fun, but i can't seem to get her interested for some reason. I text her and message her on myspace/facebook and stuff and i only get a short reply and i always seem to be the one initiating it....nothing too exciting. I figured i might have been acting too AFC and i played hard to get.

My question is: how can i get her interested? What techniques and stuff do i use to playfully tease her? Pretty much i dont know when to play hard to get....Should i play hard to get when we're hanging out or only involving stuff like making plans and calling? whats a good way to flirt?


Thanks a lot guys

If your messenging her on myspace/phone/facebook then your the one trying to hard. Let her chase you, because if you've been talking to her a lot and you haven't raised the stakes then your already in the "friend zone" Does she even know your interested or is she just flirting with you like everyone in the world does? Start holding back, flake once on her, make her chase you, but dont start heavy, just slowly less and less. Then eventually go for it again if she chases you. If not then theres only over 3 billion women out there.


FOX

Go and get a lot of social proof. If you make her think that you are getting with the hottest women and you are always busy with no time for her, she will look at you differently. Next time she wants to hang out, tell her you would, but some girl (insert random hottie name here) invited you to her party and you promised you would attend.

Make yourself have a high enough value that it seems that she isn't important enough to you. She will want you the next time you give her a fraction of kino or attention.

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alright i think i get it

another question:


if i'm trying to get at a girl i needa show interest by calling her to hang out and stuff right? but then how does ignoring her and playing hard to get work into that since i have to show interest to get at her?


my bad if this is beyond confusing

thanks!

It does get confusing at first bro...you think "Wait,I'm supposed to show I like her...but also show I dont?"

It's about balance dude.You feign interest,then spark it.Feign,spark.It's the concept of "Being Unpredictable".

You technically have total power over someone when they cant even tell you're next move,and women are perceptive to that,and love it.

Just dont go TOO overboard,as you will come off unstable,and then scary.

Play with it a bit.See what works for you in being unpredictable.

in a round about way you're basically showing intrest, but letting her know that you're an important man with other things to do if she can't time. Females demand focus, and she'll make the time if she think your attention will go somewhere other than her.

Don't call her to hang out. It might take a while, but eventually shewill wonder what happened to you two hanging out and she will suggest it. Wait for this moment.

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Ive got a Q about this.

An early prospect that i was "gaming" i stopped talking to for about 2-3 weeks. It seemed our convos had been getting boring and what not and i wasnt about to waste more energy on it.

Anyways, i used to take her to my gym and let her in for free and id take her to the basketball courts and play a little 1v1 with (kino) and 5v5 with her as well.

So anyways, she texts me just yesterday asking the usual "how im doing" BLAH BLAH BLAH and the end of our texts she told me that we should go play ball again, in which i replied "sure, just give me a call and ill let you know whats up".

She has a bf, but im about 90% positive that i made it clear i aint going to be just friends.

So... *shrugs* whats this shit mean.

-fuzz

She has a boyfriend already so this makes it a bit more difficult because she already has a source of #%$&. So you must give her a higher degree of DHV to persuade her that you will be of more value than the guy she already has in her life.

But the fact that she is communicating with you and you have already had interaction should give you enough hope to pursue her if you think that her and her situation are worth investing your attention and energy into...

Well, i KNOW im better looking than her bf. She rated him a 6 on her scale and pretty much bashing him... but justified it by saying that he can be "cute" at times.

I think i ran into a problem with this woman though. I had let her into the gym for free and she would ALWAYS hang out for about an hour after her workout just talking to me and what not. So we were just talking when another woman that i was wanting to pursue comes in HB9 (total package, funny, smart, hott) and ive talked to her a few times before and was giving her information about Whey Protein and everything. The whole time i noticed that the other woman was just eyeing her while we were talking.

So ya, maybe ill call this one up sometime and see if she wants to go out, i already know she does.

*PS: i made a thread about the HB9 (just a summary of what happened with little details) if you could help me out with that id be grateful. Threads name is "what to do next..." or w/e.

-fuzz

The situation is in your favor with this one. You are talking to one HB about how she can better her body and then another HB you are interested in sees you. With that you are DHV to two women at the same time. And you are initiating mild competition, this is win win situation. Figure out which HB you want more and follow through...

Definitely would rather pursue the HB9, but i dont think it would be much of a problem if is kept the other woman around.

There are A LOT of variables with the HB9 that ive got to figure out >.<

-fuzz

Boyfriends are merely obstacles.

One of my friends used to say "If you are with a single girl surrounded by other guys, you have to be better than all those other guys to get her, but if you are with a taken girl, you only have to be better than her boyfriend."

I am not sure if this follows the convo, I kinda just scanned the posts, but if I caught on right, you should pursue, boyfriend or not.

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I would never pass this woman up because she has a bf. I just have to figure out how to get it so she seems me as a better choice.

The thing is, im still young (20) living at home, working and going to school... whereas the bf is probably working full-time, making a lot more money and living with her.

Sometimes its hard to see WHY a woman would leave this comfort zone.

I have no problem chasing a woman if she has a bf, when my ex was with me, im pretty sure she was always looking around (stupid bitch). Its the older ones with bf that are a little more troublesome for me... as i explained earlier

-fuzz

From a womans point of view.....
Dont necessarily be hard to get. just be get gone! NO MORE myspace or facebook emails. no texting. no calling. for atleast a week. then when you do talk to her, she'll wonder why have you been. Then after that conversation, dont talk to her for like four days. Then hit her up, ask her out again. Its kinda like youre revalidating yourself by being busy yourself...I don't have any dvds or books on this pick up artist myself, but this is my advice from my standpoint as a woman. and if she does really like you, she'll probably ask where you've been before you call her that week later. Jus play it cool cause you're already emailing her and texting probably more than she expected.