Hi guys, was wondering if i could get a bit of advice.

Been going out with my gf for a month now. Everything is seemingly going very well! However, i recently came up against some what seemed to be competition. Basically i had come back from a knackering day at work and decided i wanted to meet her out as she was already in a club with three of her mates. So i call her up she seems very enthusiastic about me joining her. So i get to the club, she rings me a few times to aid in me finding her inside, after 5 mins of searching and bearably hearable phone calls i still couldnt find her....spotted her friends on the dance floor,she wasn't with them, then i caught a glimpse of her in the vip section, so i walk in and she is sat on the bar stools facing a guy with her hand rubbing his knee. Anyway instead of causing a scene i kept level headed and i gave her the benefit of the doubt that he might be a friend. (1. is this wrong?!) So i walk over, she introduces me (Still with her hand on his knee) and she says hes a friend who she hasnt seen in a long time. At first he seemed like a nice enough guy. However even when i was making convo with him she was STILL rubing his knee. This kinda bothered me but i said nothing. After a while of talking to him it was obviouse to me that he had other intentions. Hed very subtely attempt to insault me, by asking me what car i drive then telling me he had a better one and i needed an upgrade ect ect...and asking where my shirt was from and saying "let me guess....next" These subtle insults went on until i was getting rather pissed off...especially since my fashion sense destroyed his. I didnt show it, i kept level headed and played nice...When he went to the bogs he ordered her more drinks, i could tell she was quite drunk and that they'd definatley had a few before i'd got there...

She did pull me in front of him and stuff, left him trying to make convo with the bartender a few times while she payed attention to me. However ALL throughout this she was rubbing his knee...When he did go to the bogs i did say he was being a cock, she couldnt see it but he was very sly about it. Usually saying "mate im only joking" after each sly dig.

I guess what im asking is what else could i have done rather than stand there and spend an hour with this jerk...or was a over reacting? would this bother any of you? what would u have done differently? I wished id given him some sly ones back now. I was just uncertain about his relationship with her. I say that i would have given some back if id known there not actually that good friends AT ALL. As when we left he asked her what her second name was.....Also forgot to say, when i was pulling her he would just stare at me over her shoulder whilst sipping his drink, then when she turned round hed pretend like he wasn't....

I did speak to her about it as i gave her a lift home that night, said i found it rather innapropriate that she kept rubbing his knee, she seemed sorry and said she didnt think it would bother me. Which made me think that im in the wrong. I have a sneeky suspicion that she met him that night to be honest. She didnt seem to know ANYTHING about him even his age.....

Sorry for the huge essay, just wanted u to get the full picture as it happened.

Cheers.

I hesitated to reply cause my beliefs and attitude are for some forum members to raw and to "cageman" but this is the situation I couldn`t tolerate if I were you. Its OK to be cool, modern, open minded boyfriend but why did you alow yourself to feel like shit for the whole hour while your gf was touching other guys leg and he was in the same time amoging you??

Disclaimer: not and advice but something I would do!

I wouldn`t tolerate that situation for a second. I would immediatelly pull her arm (the one which wastouching guys leg), put her around my neck and kissed her, long and deep . After that, I would introduce myself to the guy, shaking his hand strongly, loooking him in the eyes with huge smile on my face. Doing all that in masculine, dominant, alpha way, that should be enough for killing his sarging moode and he would realise there is no place for him. After that, when we are alone, I would explain my gf that only guy she cn gentky touch is me, that I don`t have understanding for male female relationships which include touching besides short hug and handshake.

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Some sound advice i feel. I have no idea why i sat through an hour of it...Its because i thought he was a good friend of hers. What would u have done if he didnt get the picture after that...like with the sly insults ect?

Well, he probably wouldn`t insult me at all. Its all about the attitude. If you feel like you are dominant male and act like it others will get the picture. In your case, where you failed to project it from the start, it is a bit harder but only a bit. For example if he would insult me, smoothly like he did to you, I would laugh, outloud, even exaggerate it, saying how funny he is, hilarous, I would clap his back, like a buddy, but only a bit stronger, gave him a high 5, a little bit stonger so he could feel a bit pain... He would start to feel wierd, becoming insecure and he would eject. You would dominate him in his own game and your girlfriend would like it.

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Bro reading this post made me angry!!!

First of all, this is an AMOG test right from the get-go. You failed.

This is YOUR girlfriend, not his. Set that dominant tone from the start- walk in with the biggest smile on your fucking face happy to see your GF, take her seat and get her to sit in your lap. Just to show that you have something he doesn't. This shows alpha-male, confident, dominance right from the start..

Then, you act like his bestfriend. Everytime he makes one of those sly gestures, make one back equally witty while disqualifying him at the same time...

"Oh, you think i should upgrade my car? Man thats awesome! I was thinking about getting a cold -air intake too. Dude, im hiring you as my new mechanic right now. Here, sign (jokingly take napkin from your gf drink and get him to sign his name)..hey just don't over lube the car man, i dont want your hands fiddling under the hood too much ..." (Pat him HARD on the back).

something funny along those lines or whatever the sly/neg was about..this is also an analogy to the situation at hand, so i think it works.Your basically trying to befriend him while showing that you are the leader of this triangle. Anyway, usually I am good with guys and at this point if you did everything correctly and disqualified him enough, he will be seeking to qualify himself more to you than to the girl. Why? Because you've already demonstrated while walking in the club that you run the situation, conversation and the girl too.

You also said you werent sure if this was a good friend? Next time ask from the beginning, "ive never met you before buddy, how do you two know each other anyway?" At this point, you could of realized 1. should you actually care about this guy for your GF? or 2.who gives a fuck. The correct answer is always 2. who-gives-a-fuck. Lol.

Then, you excuse yourself, say it was nice meeting youand isolate your own gf and dip the scene, go home and get laid. That guy was not worth 5 minutes of your time, and you don't have to take crap from anyone

If your girl is up for it, show her this Monty Python video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT3_UCm1A5I

Then, when you are out with her, all you have to do when some guy is hitting on her, is say, "Nudge, nudge, wink win," like Eric Idle does. She will get the reference and will start laughing and put her bitch shield up against him.

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whats an AMOG test by the way?!

i dont think an AMOG-Test is like real terminology that mPUAS use but i was making it up for the situation at hand- an AMOG is the Alpha Male of the Group. You try to disarm and disqualify him from the beginning while possibly befriending him, in order to win over the girls.

A Shit- Test is what girls do in order to test your status and reaction to their defense or bitch shield, in order to determin who is the alpha male in the heirarchy. Its usually something along the lines of "I have a boyfriend", etc.

So i just combined the two and applied it to the situation, so AMOG-test is basically like combining the two but aplying it to AMOGS instead of women. A lot of the things you use on women to DHV can actually be used on men, and similar reactions follow.

In this case, he was just being an AFC to the AMOG who was hitting on his gf.

1. If I walk into a bar and my tipsy GF is taking drinks from a random guy, touching his leg, he's touching hers, etc- that relationship is OVER. No questions asked. As a PUA, your girl is loyal to YOU and no one else. You need to make that known to your girl, dude. She clearly does not treat you as the ALPHA of that relationship.

2. If I am in a bar and some guy tries to insult me, even subtly, in front of my GF, I am either putting him in is place, or I am taking my woman and walking away. As a PUA, I have no reason to stay in a place where I am being devalued by another person. You need to understand that your attention is a gift you give to people. You wouldn't give that guy 60 dollars, would you? Then why in the world would you give him 60 minutes of your time?

3. He AMOG'ed you. Do your homework on AMOGs. Learn how to recognize them, how to handle them, how do defend against them, etc. You got caught unaware the first time. You know better now- don't let it happen to you again.

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I agree with Marco Polo. You have to show that you are the alpha male. Your behavior was so beta and passive.

I'm wondering if your girlfriend may have even enjoyed seeing you get so upset over her hand on her "friends" leg. Probably made her feel important. Your reaction to the situation may even encourage her to do it again in order to seek validation from you.

It's worthless fighting the current of nature. If your girlfriend wants to fuck this guy, in some way or another she will find away to do it. I would just stand back and let it happen. It's like a shit test. Ultimately, with a girl who claims that she loves you and you are "the one", you shouldn't have to run interference on guys who are trying to get between her legs.

My sister's friend who I been gaming and talking to the whole night the first time her and I hooked up we had been at this bar to see a band that I like as a group. This guy came over while I was in the bathroom. I came back and this jack off was in my seat holding her hand and looking at her and I was kind of heated, but instead of acting like a dickhead I remember something I was taught by my grandfather, "you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." He was trying to game her really hard using all the latest AFC tactics (buy her a drink, I'm a pilot I can get you flown anywhere (she mentioned she liked to travel) blah blah blah) I standing up over him showing dominance shook his hand palm down. (I hadn't closed this girl yet, we were just talking and were flirting and kino escalated.) I asked her to stand up, I sat in her seat, pulled her into my lap and I put my hands around her waist. I showed her the interest and proved myself as the alpha male, she quickly told the guy "well my b/f is here, nice to meet you have a good night.

Bottom line is, by taking charge of the situation and establishing dominance I showed her that I was the "tribal leader" and would slaughter those who threatened her. She quickly dismissed the other guy. It's all subconscious.

All very good advicei feel. Yes im definatley going to act way more dominant next time. That same guy text her asking her to come for a drink. I made it very clear if she did that i would walk away. She said she never rplied and that she thought he has now got the message. Im going to trust her words, but if i ever found out i would instantly finish it. I have had a good chat to her about that situation and now consider it "case closed". She seemed sorry.I do think she enjoyed watching me in that situation, however now that ive re-read this post Im getting all those angry feelings back about her. GRRRR. That was a shit situation for me, really was. It did significatley damage my view of her. I now feel i have a few trust issues but nothing major.

Listening to your story angers me. These are my options:

1) Grab my girls hand and make out with her in front of this guy and look him right in the eye.

2) Take my girls hand and walk away from there. (Not the very best move though)

3) Tell the guy that he should come up with something better if he wants to impress my girlfriend, play it cool and probably talk to her and cut this guy off the conv. slowly

4) Everytime he says something to rude to me I'd say 'funny..you are really funny' and immediately make out with my girlfriend. It should be a pattern that he understands that everytime he trys to insult me he would have to see me make out with my girlfriend.

5) I would tell my girlfriend in private that I dont like her touching anyone else. Period, and if she does that then she is on her own.

6) If I were really pissed than I would basically bang the shit outta her for an entier week and then end the relationship with her. (banging is imp here )

Dude she is flirting with another guy at a bar. What is she doing with her hands on his knees !! that too infront of you. Thats disrespect. Would it be ok if you had your hand on some girl's knees ?

Bang the bitch and dump her, period. dont take disrespect from anyone.

screw this shit, she was hitting on him then felt the need to lie about it. I am fucking tired of this girl and I am not even seeing her. Split with her.

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So many great replies. They are all along the same lines too, I think we can all agree on this.

My perspective on this is that you have standards to keep. Doesn't matter if she's known the guy for 10 years or 10 minutes, if he's behaving like a dick, you treat him like a dick.