This keeps happening to me consistently...

A buddy and I go up to a couple of girls and get their attention, say a little bit of witty things, introduce ourselves, ask them a few really lame questions (where do you work/go to school, where do you live, ya things like that... my buddy doesn't usually say much at all, I usually do the talking lately)

And then they always become very bored with the conversation and start texting friends and kinda just start pretending I am not there.

I try to keep thinking of other fun things to say to her, but I can hardly ever come up with anything, plus I get discouraged when I see that they aren't into me.

I am a pretty good looking guy, maybe a 7 or an 8, I take good care of myself and always am well groomed when I go out, so it's something with my personality...

Yo bro,

just got to reading swingcatts stuff on being the prize and all that.

It is pretty good shit. I think that most guys go after the babes like they were such hot shit, I know exactly where you are coming from. Sometimes you feel almost like you were begging so I think it is time to see yourself as the one who decides and the prize.

Fuck thinking that you are hoping for her favour. I mean as if she wasnt going to get anything out of doing the wamba mamba for a few hours!! She would be getting off too dude!

Anyhow,I am at the same stage as you and also I am shit scared of the close. OK so you see the hottie across the bar and she has looked once or twice and you go over with your pulse rocketing at the possibility of getting blown off or just ignored so you approach and it seems to OK and then you start talking and she is nodding her head and the conversation turns to shit and she says, well we gotta go to the toilet can you keep our seats and you never see her again. It happens but I suppose dude that we will find that the more we do this, the better our shit will get so I guess the best advice would be keep on doign it. Keep it up and have patience and the odds will turn I am sure.

Not sure if this helps. but hope so...

Realwork -

A major problem I spotted is that you seem to end up "interviewing" them.

Depending on what phase you're in when you start to "interview" them - find and fix your Sticking Point.

Go into stories that make them see you as an intriguing person whom they want to hang out with - run some push / pull and take off with it!

Hope this helps some,

Xerxes

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Thanks for the advice guys.

I am hardly ever nervous walking up to a girl, it's just that the conversation always seems to get awkward. I think you were right about how I end up "interviewing" them. I keep asking questions about them and it seems like they NEVER ask me anything back, don't give me an IOI at all. I just get the vibe of "hmmm, ya, this guy is boring", and that kinda discourages me.

I also realized that I may act too much like a clown when I walk up to them. I am constantly smiling, usually a little or pretty drunk, hmm ya. Most girls might not respect that...?

I should also say that I always do this in the bars, I go out with two guys almost every weekend. One is a total champion, it seems like he's had sex with almost every girl in the town, haha... for example, last weekend he had one girl on Friday (that he pulled out of a gym), and another girl on Saturday (that he pulled out of a wedding). He got a first date sex with the first and a first meet sex with the second. A true champion. He just seems to refuse to give me any pointers when I ask him, all he says is "Trial and error". I said I thought I might be too much of a clown.. this guy is definitely more serious than I am.

My other buddy hasn't been getting a lot of sex but he's managed to get some action (making out) almost every night. He's actually kind of a dumbass too..

But ya, thanks for the advice.. I have been reading the gunwitch method today and it seems like good stuff. I will have to give it a try.


EDIT: Also, whenever a girl asks me what I do and then I tell them it seems like they view me as "hmm, ya your the type of guy I would marry, not go home with tonight"

1st. If you ask her something, and she answers but replies nothing after, than tell her something funny about whatever stupid question you asked.

2nd. Don't tell a girl where you work.

Couldn't agree more with Xerxeskai here...

Try not to ask questions where only an immediate response is required...

What is your name? (Who cares)

Where you from? (Does it really matter?)

What do you do for a living? (Yawn...)

Keep the questions more open ended requiring a girl to give a more thoughtful response... This will hopefully lead into an interesting conversation and you can take it from there... Don't forget to throw some negs in there as well... Push Pull... Push Pull....

V

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What kind of question would you recommend?

Anything!

You: I have the feeling you are an intuitive person. Is that accurate?
1)HB: Yes (most will anser yes but be prepared for a no see 2) )
You: Alright see that couple over there? How long would you say they have been dating? and why.
2)HB: No
You: Well let's see how bad you are. See that guy/girl over there. What can you tell me about him just by looking. (if she doen't respond well like "IDK" then you can start the ball rolling. With ok then let me start... I would say he's a science studen because of the way he walks...)

Anything realy.. I just let my fingers type here. Let you mouth run the same. Heck if she gets into it, then I might get her to come with me and talk to the couple/guy/girl and find out if that was true or not. Jsut clean fun. If she's into it then continue with another or say "So you're indeed intuitive, I knew it! You girls are so predictible. I wonder what wlse I can find about you... Oh I remember a perfect test for this. (cube routine)"

If she still goes into intervieuw mode, here's some responses to keep the conversation playful (got them from the 31days to better game article)

B: Where are you from?
PUA: Hmmm. Guess where i am from
HB: xxx
PUA: Aaaah soo close / Waay off, allright one more time
HB: xxx
Pua: Nope , i'm from xx
HB: Whats that like?
Pua: Ok, i'll tell you but (whisper in her ear) you cant tell anyone else
(boring etc, few pubs, few shops)
bla bla

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HB: So what do you do?
Pua: Guess what i do
HB: xxx
Pua: 3 job options
HB xxx
bla bla bla (talk about the job options, how she's right or not, or talk about how the other options appeal you / seem fun)

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Pua: So what do you do?
HB: xxxx
Pua Wait a minutes, no your not, getouttahere !
hb wait why?
pua: i'm just messing with ya, how'd you get into xxx / OR: Actually i have no idea what xxx is. but it sounds exciting, tell me about it.

I think you missread the problem. It's not her being in interview mode, it's him being in interview mode with her being nonresponsve....

Hey man!

There are some much to read about just on this forum.
Read other peoples openers, make up your own and people I'll help you.
Samething with DHV stories and kino-tricks.

An opener doesn't always have to be that entertaining.
If you're all about saying funny stuff chances are they'll think of you as a clown/nice guy. I was that back in my AFC days. Everyone would laugh and have a good time, then they go home with some other guy who just was standing right next to me with a confident smile.

Find some good activities to do with the girls:
Take them for a walk and have them point out
one guy to bang
one guy to marry
one guy to kill

And make sure to leave out some information so they end asking you questions
you allready have good/interesting answer to.

Good luck man.

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you should come up with an opener and routine stack. i'm not here advocating the exclusive use of canned material - pre-select ones that you can use well. the point is to get the conversation going, but not interview-style. and if you're having trouble, and need to escalate things properly, that's what you use routines for. you want to talk about interesting things that allow for fascinating conversation, slip in a few DHVs, and get some kino going. of course there's more to it than that, but i hope this helps get you started

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I think the real problem is that you are not being yourself, you are being who you think the girl wants you to be. But what the girl really wants is to get to know you. By being too worried about what the girl will think of you, you end up being boring which is the opposite of what she wants. Voice your own opinions, talk about things you want to talk about, never talk about things you aren't interested in.

As for the whole marry vs home tonight issue. That's not something you're born with, that's something you actively project. I'm assuming you have a very high respect for women, and try not to degrade them at all. This is probably why they don't see you as "tonight" material, you're not putting out a sexual vibe because on some level you think doing so is disrespectful. My best advice for you is to look at a woman like she is a sexual being. Look her dead in the eyes and make her feel like you want her. Sometimes all it takes is a look to create tension. Also don't shy away from sexually charged topics, or be afraid to lead her down the path that will result in sex.

good question for a pause:
if you could have 1 superpower, what would it be?

I'm still learning how to be a great conversationalist and stuff, but I hope this stuff helps you.

Make statements then question. Tell them stories and ask them to tell back. Usually I qualify them as fast as I can. This is how I got the compliment "good conversationalist" from a girl I loved.

I can't really give an example because usually I just focus at the moment and never used any routines. But I hope this will helps.

Best pal,
Steven

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