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ok was in town tonight and saw a really good 2 set, so i strutted my stuff over there and i opened really well, im getting pretty good at openeing now ive been working on voice tonalityand delivery which is a REALLY GOOD THING i swear anyone looking for vast improvement just work on your delivery!
anyway i walk up and opening do my thing i neg the target, i love the negs that are like " hey did you know you have eye crustys? noo dont get rid of them i like eye crustys" that was really good, now the one thing i have questions about is i saw a magician on a different table sitting by himself doing these amanzing card tricks, so what i do is i go over there ask hm if he wants to come over and preform some tricks! it was incredible, now i know in a gaming sense that probably wasant a good idea cause he was an incredible magician and i wanted to see some card tricks but it lowered my value like tons i guess.
anyway so im talking now i isolate!!!!m which is my first time!!! ive done that sorry guys im just really proud of this! and i run the pick a number from 1 to 10 she picked 7 and was actually kinda freaked out and then i did some compliance which she followed now i go to number close and i say " now ive had a lot of fun how can we continue this, and she says i dont know so i just get out my phone put my phone into her hand and she says " do i have to? i then said no and ejected.
now what im wondering is wether i didnt build enough attraction or wether she was freaked out about the mind reading thing which she did state it was weird cause i got iois so yeah from what you guys can gather from my lengthy post any help would be fantastic!
thanks a lot!
aresenal1883,
We need to have a chat buddy. First of all, great job getting over there opening the set and running it. You had an awesome start at this and did a good job. Let's take a look at the analysis.
The magician wasn't a bad idea necessarily but it might have hurt a bit. Instead of you working to talk to the girls you pull in someone else to entertain them. This doesn't really hurt but I'm sure it didn't help.
You are using routines and lines that are very common. I would caution you that these aren't bad to use to get started like you are but be aware you could easily be told they have heard the line before or ask you if you are a pickup artist. I know a lot of women who have read "The Game." However, in this case they worked and they got you a little ways.
Now I see you using these lines and stuff but WHAT did you do to build attraction? The only thing I really see is your use of the neg to tease her which creates attraction. You didn't say you did anything to Demonstrate Higher Value to the girl to create attraction. Maybe you did something you didn't write...
Anyways, you isolate this girl from a two set. First of all, with two sets you really shouldn't isolate. Both friends get worried about each other very quickly and it makes it uncomfortable for both of them. Depending on how much time you were in isolation she could have been worried about her friend and stuff. Keep a two set together. Larger groups 3+ you can isolate from because no one is left alone.
Lastly, there really wasn't anything that you did to establish comfort with your target. No value building or telling stories to build common ground just basic routines to fill in conversation gaps. Well the problem is this... when you ask for a phone number its hard to say YES and here is why.
She might have very well been attracted to you. I say that based on her interaction with you, and her isoalating with you. She had to like you some or she was just being extra nice! Anyways, she is attracted to a whole lot of guys too. However, that doesn't mean she'd date them or be in a relationship with them. She doesn't know them, or anything about their past or what they are like. Because of this if she does get their number and goes on a date with the dude it's awkward. They don't know what to talk about on the date cause they don't know each other and it's weird. She will blow off the date to avoid being in that situation. Hence, why she didn't want to give you her phone number.
Make sure to get some attraction, and get about 15 minutes or so into actually building comfort with the girl before you number close. Let he get to know you build some common ground for a while after turning the routines and stuff off. This will reduce the likelyhood that she flakes!
Hope all this helps bro,
Jon
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