I apologize for creating 3 topics in one day.....it's just I need this information as soon as possible because I will be starting my Summer self-development quest (it will be mainly in the Summer but it will go for the rest of 2009) in the next couple of days and want to start off with an advantage.

So here's my last problem. I really want to get with my previous/current one-itis (the same one who disrespects me). Now I know many of you will say this is a bad thing, date other people, your in the friend zone, etc. I HAVE gotten with other girls and it has nothing to do with an obsession. However, it's REEEALLy hard ignoring a HB 10 blonde bombshell in your class who you've had chemistry with previously (and as an actor I'm attracted to actresses.....and she happens to be one). There is no escaping her because I'm the president of the theatre club and she's vice and we'll undoubtedly have the same classes together.


Now the kind of person I have been around her this year has been 1. arrogant 2. rude 3. insincere (on accident). I know I need to change these things, but what else could I do to make her see me in a different (more "I would date him") light? I feel like there's this cloud of failure looming over me everytime I'm around her for screwing up my chance (I realize what I did wrong btw) and I just want to see if she's even worth my time.

Any and all advice welcome.

Lol did u read any game material?

If u have been rude and arrogant for most of the time with her, then it would be really weird if u just start being nice with her.

Just act cocky and funny. Then try to connect with her on a more intimate level. Like as to know more about her. Dont try to do this in a day but gradually

gdluck bro

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lol I have bro, I'm not THAT new. I plan on staying away from people (at least people from my school) during the Summer and improving myself then. I see no reason for her to think it weird if she hasn't seen me in 3 months and I come back a very confident attractive male......of course I could be wrong. I know for a fact I could get her, it's just I don't know the right things to do in order to make it happen....

oh ok. U gonna try it after summer. lol i am planning to do the same with my oneitis.

Gdluck man :)

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However, it's REEEALLy hard ignoring a HB 10 blonde bombshell in your class who you've had chemistry with previously (and as an actor I'm attracted to actresses.....and she happens to be one). There is no escaping her because I'm the president of the theatre club and she's vice and we'll undoubtedly have the same classes together.

First thing, stop putting so much emphasis on this girl. You are giving her way to much value. You need to relax and understand that it's not a big a deal if you DON'T hook up with her, contrary to what your 'little head' might say. There will be other HB 10s down the road, trust me.

You can’t properly game anyone if you are tense and or anxious about saying or doing the right thing. All the PUA material in the world won’t help unless you can relax first…

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PS. dont act cocky and funny. Be cocky and funny.

well said
well since you have allready been a ass to her show her that your a good guy underneath.show her your cool fun funny

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I plan on it =) Actually, like a week before school starts we have a teaching class together with little kids so I plan on showing her my sensitive side. Thanks guys, I really appreciate the help =)

Showing her your sensitive side? What the fuck?
You think the answer is to be a nice guy?
Nice guy is like a dirty word in the pua community.
It is scorned and ridiculed. AFC's try to be nice guys to girls.
It sounds you've learned pretty much nothing.

Being confident.
Being an alpha male.
Being "the prize."

Those are some of the keys that are the most often emphasized by puas.
Not being a nice guy.
AFC's think that the way to win a girl over is to be a nice guy.
All that does is put you in the friend zone, at best.
Girls aren't attracted to you for being "nice."
They are turned off by it!

When a guy tries to win a girl over by being nice, she just sees it as phoney, pathetic, loser behavior. It looks phoney because she knows you're just trying to manipulate her by acting nice and she knows that you're normally not that nice. It looks pathetic because sucking up to her makes you look like you have nothing to offer besides sucking up to her. It makes you look like a loser because you're sending the message that she's the prize and you are far beneath her.

You have to do a lot of reading and a lot of practice on other girls to develop the skills. You have to put a lot of work into it. You can't be lazy and expect to be able to game an HB10 who doesn't even like you.

No offense mate, but you need to read the definition of the word sensitive then get back to me. Sensitive has nothing to do with being nice. It has to do with showing vulnerability which IS attractive. I'm not new to PUA theory nor am I new to getting girls. I know from EXPERIENCE that girls don't like hardasses. Guys that seem emotionless all the time are either tools or douche bags. I'm aware of the failings of a nice guy. Thanks for trying to help anyway.

What Billionaire said is right.

SirSwagger, vulnerablilty is an attractive quality in comfort. It will help to make ur connection more intimate with the girl.
But that said, thats not an attractive quality at the start of ur interaction. At the start ur main objective should be setting the frame, that is u as the prize. But if u show ur vulnerbality early, it will probably convey way too much interest way too early, because u are already opening up to her and thats not what u want to do.It will just come of as AFC.

So be cocky and funny and establish urslef as the prize. And wen she starts to show interests in u . U qualify her. Then u show ur vulnerable side.

Don_ K

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Ah, thanks for putting it in perspective Don_K. Geez I have a lot of research/practice/development to do in the next few months. Are their any TOP rated products out their for innner/natural game that anyone recommends?

I think that it's funny that you guys think you can't be a nice guy while being a dominant guy as well. I'd say that I'm pretty nice, but that's one of my attractive qualities, as is the ability to be sensitive. The key is to know when you need/can show those sides and what effect it will have on the girl. I think in this situation if he's been an arrogant but successful guy (he's president of something, so he's gotta be decent), then showing that he can also be a sensitive guy is a really good way to make her interested; every girl is looking for that jerk that she can change into a nice sensitive guy and he can be just that.

Sounds like a good plan to me if he works it right.

Thanks Rye_Lee I figured the same as you.....I guess different things work for different people. Me and the girl I'm going (or I should stay start going) after is pretty but highly insecure. I know the guys she's previously gone out with and from what I could tell they seemed like douche bags to me but all the girls loved them because they were "nice". I think I'm in the position im in now because when we did have a thing I was TOO much cocky and arrogant and that's basically have I've been sophomore and junior year. I realize it does turn girls off but I haven't been able to turn it off (because of my insecurities I feel acting like I'm cocky will make everything better). Now most would say girls can see right through that but they'd be wrong......every girl I know believes I'm cocky as Hell because I'm skilled enough to portray it truthfully. It disheartens me to hear how guys rag on nice guys (I'm not talking about pussies scared of getting pussy, I'm talking about guys with positive attitudes who are good natured and give value to others) because being good looking and also unbelievably arrogant/cocky and an ass hasn't been working for me......I'd rather go with a great guy who's confident in himself