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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:57 pm 
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Hi guys

So over the last year I've thrown myself into the PUA community following a split from my long term GF.

I always told myself I was doing this to attract the sort of woman i felt I deserved rather than in the past settling for what i could get....AFC style.

And its worked. I've had a blast over the last year, had a lot of fun and now have a HB10 as my GF. She's intelligent, beautiful and we get on well. Perfect? Nope, she has faults like we all do. She's just as human as the rest of us.

Two months later here I am, I'm sat here with the bug again. I wanna go sarging again. I miss the "buzz". There's one thing my GF will never and can never be. And thats someone else!

So is it a case of once a PUA, always a PUA? Or have some ppl managed to find someone worthy enough of hanging up the pulling pants for?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:16 pm 
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I know how you feel bro...let me ask you somthing how long have you and your girl been togeather? I feel like every PUA thinks like this when the relationship is new because we are all so accustomed to the "game" and now you have no game...youhave a relationship.

If you truly like her at some point you will realize she is the only one you want...sounds crazy I know but just wait it will happen. Its funny because when your not in a relationship you think of how wonderful it would be to have a gf, and when you are you think about how wicked it would be to sleep with randoms every night...the grass always looks greener from the other side bro.

Having sex with with random is fun! and the chase is exciting! but if you find a good girl who treats you well, and who is your best friend then dont let her go! or you will look back and think of how dumb and shallow it really was.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:19 pm 
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Some people here will tell you that a real relationship is not possible and you should always fuck and chuck...but that no way to live life or treat women....at some point we all find somone who we want more then a sexual relationship with.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:39 pm 
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I agree wholeheartedly with what darkone has said...wise words

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Woah... I've been in a relationship for almost 3 weeks i think with an HB Fuckin Hot and its so hard for me to stop. She has so much trust and respect for me and Im the same with her but I cant help but try to jump @ an opportunity with other women. I've pretty much had to shut myself away from all outside communication to try and give this girl the chance she deserves. on top of that, my boys are dogging me for being a flake and getting attached but out of all the women i didnt care for any of them except this one... its so fuckin hard to control myself...


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Gadge...it's so great you posted this. After months of not even looking at this site, i came back on because i am facing the exact dilemma. I'm very confused as well...

I LOOOVVEE this girl..she's so sweet, kind, wants to improve herself...will literally sell everything she owns , do ANYTHING for me. She's so infatuated with me also obviously haha...BUT.

Gadge...seriously....you said it PERFECTLY..."There's one thing my GF will never and can never be. And thats someone else!"

I want another ass jiggling underneath me as i pound away...i want a different set of eyes looking up at me with my dick in her mouth...i want another sense of humor....different ideas....a different style of blowjob...philosophy...PERSONALITY.

Not because i don't love my GF's personality or her AMAZING blowjobs....but for precisely the fact that it's the same girl.....

I miss all the motivation i had when i was trying to meet girls. I'd read SO MUCH, be so interested in conversation....going out ....talking to new people....actually listening to what people have to say and using my knowledge to make a good/in depth conversation...etc. I used my BRAIN a lot more because i was constantly facing challenges brought up internally and externally. I felt smarter, more quick, less focused on inhibitatory(?) drugs...(drinking, weedl) ...because i wanted to be sharp ALWAYS which is a NECESSITY in social dynamics, having a successful interaction. Studying body language, being strict about my own body language...pushing myself out of my fucking comfort zone!!!! An guess what, SO MUCH MORE.

AHhh....can anyone please provide insight. Thank you gauge for helping me say what i've been feeling for awhile now.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:35 pm 
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I miss all the motivation i had when i was trying to meet girls. I'd read SO MUCH, be so interested in conversation....going out ....talking to new people....actually listening to what people have to say and using my knowledge to make a good/in depth conversation...etc. I used my BRAIN a lot more because i was constantly facing challenges brought up internally and externally. I felt smarter, more quick, less focused on inhibitatory(?) drugs...(drinking, weedl) ...because i wanted to be sharp ALWAYS which is a NECESSITY in social dynamics, having a successful interaction. Studying body language, being strict about my own body language...pushing myself out of my fucking comfort zone!!!! An guess what, SO MUCH MORE.
If it's about mental stimulation, challenges, expanding your comfort zone, then find a new goal. Learn another language. Set your sights on a promotion at work. Read a book. Write a book. Learn cooking, woodworking, sculpting, or any art or craft you might enjoy. Renew your interest in a hobby that you gave up to make time for pickup. Volunteer. Run for city council. Host parties.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:59 am 
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But...what i want most of all out of that "mental stimulation" ...is the Fclose that all those stimulants add up to. I want different pairs of mouths blowing me, different vagina's......i wanna bang someone who's actually REALLY GOOD at sex at moves her hips like a belly dancer and has a vagina that makes me not ABLE to hold on to ejaculation instead of me TRYING to ejaculate.

All those rumors about men having a hard time NOT exploding...i've never experienced that. But i WANT to feel that fucking aroused and know what it feels like. So basically, i want the new bodies/faces/styles of blowjobs/ and different skills having sex.

AND having banged the new HB, we lay and I continue finding out about this NEW human being.

I understand what you're saying, but that's like saying...."man i have this drive to just make more money." Reply: "Oh...then go play for a run"

The stimulation i want is FROM girls, not the need to be stimulated in general.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:43 am 
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No. The stimulation you want is not from girls. Your brain doesn't know the difference between dopamine generated from a sexual experience and dopamine generated from some other rewarding experience.

Yes, I understand that right now, you feel like you want other girls. You're also claiming, however, that because you love your current girlfriend, you don't necessarily want to want other girls. If that is truly the case, then you can actively retrain your brain to provide you with reward chemicals when you achieve other ends and not just when you get a blowjob from a new woman.

Or, you're saying that you want your girlfriend to accept an open relationship. That's a possibility. If she won't, though, then you are left with a choice. Cheat on her, leave her, or find a way to redirect your desire for stimulation to some stimulating behaviour besides sex with new women.

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Intelligent answer. But still.....dopamine may be released when I have a feeling of reward. Or rather, you get the feeling of reward from dopamine? Anyway this is my point.

Isn't it possible that at the current moment, nothing could generate such a reward such as a new woman? I lift, finish a book a week, do good at school, yet none of the clueless dopamine that saturates my receptors even comes CLOSE to equal the reward i feel with a girl.

Basically, some rewards are far greater than others, as to seem that any feeling of reward(dopamine release) will be a fraction of that reward, with a girl.

Or so it seems...


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Here's something to think about.

When masturbating, sometimes I would fantasize about ex girlfriends, and come up with these awesome fantasies that would blow my mind and give me a great orgasm, and often I realised the fantasies weren't that outrageous, and I found myself thinking "Why didn't that happen then?" and I realised it was all internal. It was my attitude, my frame of mind.

So after that, one time I was with a girl I was on and off with, and you'd think after so many years our sexual adventures would be pretty dry, but I had an inspiration in the morning, a fantasy if you will, and I called out for her to come back to the bedroom (she was doing makeup in the bathroom or something)

Later on she told me she "knew" it would be "something like that" from the moment I first called out - something about the tone of my voice. Seriously I wasn't consentrating on anything. All I did was have the realisation of what I wanted to do, sat up, called out for her to come here, and with friendly insistance, told her exactly what I wanted to do and what I wanted her to do. I won't bother telling you the gory details - it wasn't wierd, just silly, but it was exciting and fun for BOTH of us and the interesting part is that it was all about ME getting off, the touching I did to her was all for my benifit, she didn't physically get stimulated at all. And yet I could tell by the tone of her voice during, and afterwards, she too thought it was exciting and sexy and fun, and had a good time being involved in it.

And to this day I'm still proud that I lived out a "fantasy", and proved that the amount of fun I have is all in my head, and all about me, as the man, taking control of the situation and setting the mood, to have fun!


Sure, different girls will turn you on in different ways, but you won't find some magic vagina that will make you cum as soon as you stick it in, so you need to get over that. I know for a fact now that, as the man, you are responsible for making the whole encounter something to be excited about.


Untill I realised that, I rarely encounted a good orgasm, and most of the time was "trying" to orgasm, just like you described. If you're humping away, waiting for something special about her to suddenly make you cum, things will stay boring. You have to make it fun, and you have to provide the framework that will cause her to bring out the amazing unique things that she can say and do that will make you cum.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:56 pm 
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I know how you feel bro...let me ask you somthing how long have you and your girl been togeather? I feel like every PUA thinks like this when the relationship is new because we are all so accustomed to the "game" and now you have no game...youhave a relationship.

If you truly like her at some point you will realize she is the only one you want...sounds crazy I know but just wait it will happen. Its funny because when your not in a relationship you think of how wonderful it would be to have a gf, and when you are you think about how wicked it would be to sleep with randoms every night...the grass always looks greener from the other side bro.

Having sex with with random is fun! and the chase is exciting! but if you find a good girl who treats you well, and who is your best friend then dont let her go! or you will look back and think of how dumb and shallow it really was.
Great reply Darkone. The logical side of me totally agrees with you. The horny part of me wants to go out and chase! In answer to your question we've been dating for just over a month now. Not a long time I guess but I've spent a LOT of time with her. She's barely been home for one night a week and her housemate is wondering if she's MIA! :lol:
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I want another ass jiggling underneath me as i pound away...i want a different set of eyes looking up at me with my dick in her mouth...i want another sense of humor....different ideas....a different style of blowjob...philosophy...PERSONALITY.

Not because i don't love my GF's personality or her AMAZING blowjobs....but for precisely the fact that it's the same girl.....
Yup, we're in the same place! Hope you've managed to stay good!

So far I've limited myself to surfing some online dating sites only and making sure she's here as much as possible. She went home today and my wingman stopped by for a brewski, telling me all his latest exploits which honestly doesn't help me to stay good!

The sex is getting better too. I've always had a real problem with being able to come whilst getting head and trust me, plenty of women have tried!!! :wink: But tell you something, this girl has managed to do the impossible! Regularly too!


Argh, perhaps its true! Us men are as shallow as puddles! :lol:


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