Great advice, I definately think you should sleep with some other girls. Somehow girls always know when you've just gotten laid. I guess it's the way you carry yourself after hooking up or something but it always seems like they know and it makes them want you too. I would make it a game, I would be very flakey with this girl until you hook up with at least one other girl then set up a meeting with her afterward. Also I definately wouldn't sleep with this girl before she goes away, wait till she gets back, give her something to think about while she's away.

Well, it always sucks when you consider the possibility to let go a really, really HB just like that. But the truth is, staying too long with her in a situation in which you don't feel comfortable (and thus a situation that sucks too), ruins your game not only with this really, really HB, but with others too.

Last saturday I found myself gaming such a HB. I gamed her well, got her isolated easily, kino and #-close, despite the nervousness I felt at the moment as this girl was a few cm's taller than me. Sent her yesterday a phone msg, having her not replied back. I sent a fine msg, as cocky and funny as I was in the club last saturday. Nevertheless, the girl didn't msg back. Just a few minutes I discovered she added me on the Facebook. You could ask yourself: is this girl playing some kind of game? It could be, however, I don't care much for two reasons:

1. If she does play a game, I will find out anyway, because I will play back in an even cooler fashion than she does.
2. There are other women I game at the moment. Two of them I am seeing on a regular basis. Maybe, not physically as attractive as this one, but the gap is not that large. Intellectually, the other two are the inventors of the world compared to the really, really HB.

So, the possibilities that are present are making things very easy. I would like to appear with one of those two in front of this HB. Just as part of the game. After I have done this, I will move in again to recalibrate the situation with this HB. And most important thing to remember: no matter what happens, it's no big deal! But then again, this is also the most difficult part of the game.

You guys are goooood !! (Or bad???)
Anyway. To make a very long story short. We met on Sat. We met again on Sun. I've got everything I wanted from her sexwise. I was the master and enjoyed her body. I felt very special and was very sure that she is now under my spell. Guess what before I went home she asked me to help her out and load a heavy luggage in the trunk so she wont have to do it later herself. So she was about to zip it and then said she forgot to add some stuff in it. So she did unzip the luggage and I saw (she did not see mee seing) the jumbo pack of Trojans right there.....

So,,, going for vacation with a jumbo pack of condoms.... Well, I managed to swallow and not to show anything. We had a good sweet buy and she left...

Here is another dillema... Keep her around or just cut her lose...

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Well, congratulations anyway!

I would recommend to cut her loose and if she stays around on her own, she stays around and you do what you have to do. But keeping her around for too long is bad news as far as I can assess based on your previous posts. If I were you I would focus on something else. When you feel like, check her out sometimes to calibrate her and then decide want you want to do.

However, I am getting the impression that you are investing yourself too much into this, certainly at this stage when you don't where you stand with her. So cut her loose enough that you are allowed to game somebody else and if this women is still around, you can decide to see her. She probably will be more willing to do this than if you decided to get into a real relationship with her.

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Hi guys,

So the target came from the vacation. For the last three weeks I've slowed down with this HB10, gently tried first and then escalated negs, push/pulls tactics through text messaging, simply speaking tried to put emotions aside and act as an PUA... Thanks again to all your help and the forum per se.... Great results I can tell...

A week ago she stopped replying to my text. Completely. However through a series of well tailored negs/increased value/busy/etc I had her call me. I set a time and we've met. Didnt have balls to flake on her...

And there again I've lost like a f******g looser. Without time to think, evaluate, play I've said it all How I miss her, how much I was thinking about her, how I would love to see her again and the most unfortunately made it sound like I am needy to have sex with her... Yep. Perhaps fatal mistake.

We've had some intense kissing/touching. She said we would meet another time not in the car. We had a sweet bs talk....

So, even if the first fatal mistake didn't do the damage, this one have done it for sure. Here you go Right before she was about to leave (at least there I've set a time constrain) I've got 60 bucks from my pocket to give to her, as she had a flat tire while on the way to see me she replied in a firmly voice "No,why you are giving me this money for, I was thinking we have some different relationship, whatever you call it" "I replied as I feel bad for what happened and you had to pay pay for the tow truck to come a fix you tire... I am being a nice guy here"

She replied, and you could feel the slight tone of the dissapointment in her voice "You are being too nice"

We've kissed and she left... One week is gone. Few push/pulls. No reply. At work, she is staying cool, friendly.

NB> I know the rule but have no intentions to look and sarge other HB. I want to 2 fukc her. Also important fact here: She let some details from our conversation out. I was told (indirectly) by my coworker which utterly obviously indicated to me that she let some specific details out...

Giving up is not an option. Want to get into her panties again.

POSITION RECOVERY GENTLEMEN (IF ANY)?

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Man you seemed to do just fine with your cool (re-)approach after her vacation but why did you spit all this things up like "I missed you, I need to see you again etc.."? And of course, you didn't have to offer your money for the tire. You should just have taken her home with your own car and excuse yourself and have her fix things on her own. I think you have put yourself now in a more difficult position than you were earlier. I can tell your inner game is quite weak. You play well on the phone but when she is around you are not able to keep composure. You need to figure out a little bit about takeaways, freeze out's and reward/punish dynamics. This is what you need. To do this congruently, your inner game needs to be on level. I can't really recommend you anything else at this point. Keep in tentative touch with her but be aware of your game.


You may try this next time you are on the phone, online or face to face:

YOU: "....Ok I have to go now, but I will call you when I have some time so we can hang around a little bit"
SHE: "OK"
YOU: hang up the phone or sigh out if you are online or just leave

After a few days:
YOU: start some neutral talk, do not mention getting together, tease a little bit and appear busy. Don't stay too available, cut the convo off after some time
SHE: talks and seems willing to invest a bit more in the interaction
YOU: "Listen, I have to go now, but maybe we will talk tonight"
SHE: "OK", maybe an IOI already..
YOU: don't show up at night, don't call

Next day:
YOU: again neutral talk, little bit teasing, tell something interesting about something you did the previous night but don't make it seem as you are trying to impress her. Then cut the convo off again.
SHE: should be responsive at this point, IOI's

Next day or two days later:
YOU: 'have your car fixed already?'
SHE: "yes/no"
YOU: "coming over to my place gives you bad luck:)."
SHE: "yes, I think so haha"
YOU: "I have to go..I may come over to yours tonight, we will talk later. Any plans tonight?" Or tell her you could meet in town.
1. SHE: "no"
YOU: "go and arrive 15-30 minutes too late"
2. SHE: "I can't", followed maybe by an excuse"
YOU: "ok", then freeze her out and punish again and if it does not work just cut her loose!

By the way, here is a nice interesting fact I can share with you. Some six week ago I met a really interesting girl to whom I am attracted very much. Have gone out with her four times. Just k-close on the second date and making out on third and fourth dates. No f-close yet. I will admit that the girl was quite cooperative all the time. The thing is that she is in Azia on vacation for 3 weeks (I live in Europe). It has been now two weeks that she is gone I have not had almost any contact with her yet. This is for many guys a bit frustrating situation as there was such a great time between us before she went on vacation. But what can a man do in this case instead of waiting till she is back and re-approaching smoothly again in the same way as the first time? Well, the only thing he can do is game others in the meanwhile till he has made sure that the girl is ready to invest (again). Waiting for her and depriving himself of game with others, will affect his game especially with this particular girl as he is investing himself too much into something at a wrong time. For this reason, he will be relieved when she is back and she will know it. While, maybe at the same time she may have fu**ed two other guys during her vacation. If this is the case indeed, this behavior would make you seem very small in her eyes (compared to her fu**ers), having her not want to do anything with you again. This is just to give you an example of how your inner game should be. Think about this!