Since everyone makes topics like these, so will I, and I'd appreciate any help, advice or motivation, but I just want to get it off my chest...

I actually wonder will someone make it to the end, but that's why this forum is for, to share our thoughts and experiences with each other .

Remember what Michael Jordan said after being kicked out of his varsity team : "I never want to feel that hole in my stomach again." ?

Well, this hole is like ten times bigger in my stomach now.

I'm into the Game for almost a year now, I think, with zero success. I''ll be 22 next month and I've never kissed a girl in my life, never been in a relationship.

I try not to let it, but the loneliness and feeling of being plagued with an anti attraction disease is really creeping unto me. I was one of the best students on a prestige college and little by little, I'm losing motivation for everything, because this part of my life is such a mess. When I should be doing something, I'm sitting and thinking, or writing like I am now. No matter how much I fight it, go out with friends, have fun, it's always there and it's becoming worse.

The worst part of it all is that I could of been in one, but would any of you date a girl who even said, in a subtle way : "You're boring and ugly but since I can't get anything better, I'll take you." ?
Shit, when I could talk normally, I used to make a 10 (who's college educated) laugh her ass off in a crowded bus... Boring ? I almost believed that for a second.

A funny thing happened when another girl told me she's desperate for someone to love her, to treat her like she was the meaning of his life, to give all the emotions she has to someone, but... That her heart just doesn't beat in the rythm of love when she's with me and that she would rather grow old as a spinster


I don't have any social anxiety or fears, and the week after I read The Game, I tried to game a girl who rejected me badly before, in front of her friends, haha. She seemed impressed, but I obviously wasn't Style and it failed.

I have a problem actually, with my speech. When I was 11, I was a nerd and had a very tough time in school, so one day I just stopped talking. It wasn't normal stuttering, but an extremely bad and weird version of it. When I'm alone, or when I'm really really confident, I can talk just like any normal person. But... when approaching or talking to strangers, I'm never sure what will come out of my mouth and I've had people laughing at me for that in many occasions. I found a cool book by an American doctor who found ways how to cure this disorder, and I'm working on it every day, so it's getting really better now, but when it comes to real life gaming, I'm still in a big disadvantage because I talk funny

So I started online dating, because I'm a very good writer in my language, and people always compliment me about that. I've also played online games, so I'm a good chatter and know how to write messages. It seemed easier to show girls my personality through text then through my stumbling speech, but SPAM I realise I failed so badly I can't believe it's true.

I've been called ugly and monster when I was a kid (cause of hair color and overweightness) but now I look average. What really pisses me off is that it seems to me like I have some sign on my head "Non dating material".

The girls just see my pictures and ignore my brilliant opener. Then there are girls who I try talking to... and it seems like my personality is shit too, because they just want the conversation to end. I managed to connect with three girls online, and they were actually good catches, one was even a 10.

When it came to dates, I was actually funny and cocky, and on the last two, I even talked almost fluently, but got blown off : "You're ok, but no chemistry".
I mean, I don't understand this crap... none of the people I know, my friends from school, from my town, people I meet online, know anything about the Game. They don't use any of the material, most of them talk boring stuff like cars and soccer, I don't see them flirting and kinoing... yet the girls obviously feel that moment with them : That "look", the chemistry. I know a guy who drinks, he's fat, he doesn't have ANY game, he's a bit shy, and now he's dating a 9. She said he just looked at her and at that moment she fell in love.

I actually like being around and with women, it feels really comfortable, and I admire every single man who became a PUA from AFC, but in this one year... from being hyped up and feeling I could do ANYTHING, I lost every faith I had, in people, relationships. I can't talk about it to any of my friends, cause they're either natural and in a steady relationship, or shy and don't even think about women. I told one friend about The game, and he just doesn't believe it, and he doesn't believe that a LTR based on gaming a girl could ever work. Me ? I don't know what to think anymore.

Every girl I talked to, or just saw, both online and real life, says she just wants honesty, good humor and normal guy, nothing more... Yet, this proved to be a bunch of crap. I actually asked a girl on a date : Tell me, if a guy has all this qualities, is it enough ? .... She replied : Ye... but you know, there's also chemistry.

I'm really not in it for the sex, or the fame... what I'm looking for is a normal life, and someone who I can hang out with, who can support me when I need it, who I could hug, kiss, a normal human being need. I worked a lot on developing my inner game, I'm a leader of my peer group, I organize things, make groups of people laugh, and I am in the mentality that I AM the prize, cause I really believe it's true...

BUT

How I can keep this mentality alive when real life proves otherwise ? Girls I talk to in real life, girls I sarge online... they're immune on all forms of the game (my game that is). It's killing me that I can't create that "moment", the "look", the "eyes", the attraction... all my body language, all the questions, DHV's, everything I try, ends up in her flipping the conversation to something idiotic, like she's trying to make me an AFC.

Approaching girls on the street or college is good in theory, in the books... but on every girl on my college there is 20 guys, and the streets... I just wonder... how can 90% of my friends have girlfriends without talking to strangers on the street. This feeling of looking every girl as a potential target is making me feel really needy. The girls I'm interested in go out in their private bars, with a couple of friends, study on their colleges, and I'm not gonna find them in folk music discos, so that's out too.

I lift weights and it's making me feel atleast bit better in these tough times... but something will have to change because I feel my life is slipping away. I spend Saturday nights reading through PUA material, but when it comes to real life, there is my speech, terrible body language, and a wall everytime I try anything...

I mean, I'll rebound somehow, and I'm not thinking of quitting or being desperate, but since online dating failed, I have to turn to real life, in my small town which is filled with girls who don't fit my criteria, use bad mouth and live in their own world which I feel disgusted with...

Maybe I should just lift... expand my social circle with friends, and wait... for something... dunno, it's really confusing for me now, and every Friday and Saturday when I'm out with the guys or alone at home, the feeling comes back, that I don't want to be here, and that I don't need to be a PUA divinity. I just need 1 normal, funny girl to enjoy life with and I feel like I'm miles away from it, even with all the "knowledge" I got.

So basically you live in a small town, 2 years ago u got into the game and thought you were gonna have it all. Now you realize that you have nothing and find yourself in a whole.

Going back to the beginning, I think what went wrong is you thought that by studying the arts you could become a mPUA and that would solve all of lifes problems. You got so caught up in the arts that you became disillusioned with yourself in the process?

Most important lesson from <i>The Game</i> is not to rely on the arts, women, status or anything external to fill the emotional void deep inside you.

I dunno what kind of PU tactics you used IRL or studies and practiced on the internets, but take a moment to just let it all go. Take a deep breath in, and slowly exhale all the superficial PUA material you memorized and let it float up towards the sun while clearling your mind, relaxing your body. You have now let go of all your frustration and are entering a state of calm awareness.

The next step it to just focus on being your higher self, which is expressing your true self, and being your confident self. You are happy and present in each moment. You are self fulfilled and non needy. You interact with others out of compassion and acceptance. You are the greatest man in the world because you chose to be.

Hold on to this feeling, internalize it, live it.

Now turn off the internet and go out have fun.

- Anonymous

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I hear you man Im 27 and a virgin kiss one girl in life (and got a cold sore from her).

We just have to hang in there lower are exspectations spread are wings if you live in a small town move go online work your game there.

Work on our outter game and inner game.

Heres a list of things I think we need to learn to get successful like a checlist of things women are attracted to, in no way do I think its complete and knowing and being able to applky and show them is another story altogether

Sorry for this wall of text in advance

Appearance

Face- Symmetrical, strong, high cheek bones, appealing piercing eyes.
Clothing- Fashionable, trendy, standing out from crowd with mild pea cocking and accessories.
Well groomed hair, nails, facial hair.
Physically fit but not too muscular.
Celebrity look a like (attractive celebrity…”he looks kinda like ”).
Tan with white straight teeth.
Smelling good but not using anti-per spirant (pheromones).
Attractive housing/home appearance.

I look like Seargant Slaughter and a gargoyle produced me so!

Status

Wealth, celebrity, power, career, education ect.
Fun and exciting life style travel ect.

Understanding of the Female Psyche

Social conditions of the female.
Little princess/ Prince charming.
Handling last minute resistance.
Understanding the dynamic of the relationship (not being needy, giving space, controlling jealousy, noticing “TESTS” and knowing how to pass them)

Body Language
Non mechanical / natural looking.
Proper posture (chest up, head cock up possible tilted to the side, shoulders back, ass and abdomen tight, hands at the sides)
No fidgeting or nervous movements.
Solid ridged non push over.
Ability to make and maintain proper eye contact.
Pursed lips and furred brown (think James Dean)
Understanding of distance/spacing and leveling.
Understanding of comfort building principals
Noticing IOIs (hair toss, look aways, body positioning, eye placement, pupil dilation, voice tone ect.)
Kino escalation.
Body rocking.
Good kissing skills as well.




Inner Game

Confidence, positive, lacking self doubt, no inner turmoil harboring little insecurities.
Portraying and feeling as a strong powerful man.


Social Value

Women will not mate with a male who is believed to be of inferior social value. (lovable losers)
Neg Theory.
DHV Theory.
A leader (lead the women take initiative)



In Field Sarging

General Approach theory.
Memorized openers.
Ability to open sets and disarm males and other females.
Disqualifying theory
Appropriate use of Neg Theory.
Understanding of DHV theory.
Using False Time constraints theory.
Being a social leader.
Capture and maintain attention of sets / targets.
Coming across as a sexual threat (non creepy).
Push pull theory.
Dealing with interruptions to set.
Number closing.
Having a good time with it all.

Any thing I missed please and to it...