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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:15 am 
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Are you an AFC or a PUG? Take this Self-Assessment to learn where you are in the game, and where you need to focus.

Broadly speaking you will fall into one of four groups: AFC, rAFC, PUA, mPUA, and PUG.

AFC scores 25 % and below

rAFC scores 26% to 45%

PUA scores 46% to 65%

mPUa scores 66% to 85%

PUG scores 86% to 100%

It should be noted that any there are grey areas between each, so there is a standard deviation of 5% each way.

You will also be given a detailed score in the following areas:

Inner game

Interaction

Conversation

Body language

The test can be downloaded here (PDF):

http://rapidshare.com/files/237249211/The_SRNA_test.pdf

PM me the results and I will score your test. Also anyone who knows where I can get this automated, please PM me.


P.S. I would eventually like to setup a PUA skill database (think like a baseball card), where people can go to see the scores of fellow PUA’s. Those who whish to have there scores public just let me know and I will post them here. ( PUA Trading cards lmao :lol: )


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:18 am 
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ILL TRADE YOU DAVID D. AND MYSTERY FOR 2 STYLES AND SINN!!

Lmfao, sounds like fun.

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I question the accuracy of the assessment test. I'll post my results here publicly (plus commentary) because I have no shame. Feel free to tell me how I score on your scale out here in the open.

Section S

Number of people I slept with in the last 4 months (A): 3
Number of people I approached with the intention of fucking during that time (B): 2

success rate = 131

Apparently my "success rate" is 131%. Doesn't sound like a very valid way of measuring success considering the fact that some PUAs (like me) normally don't even approach people with the intention of sleeping with them. Desire, yes, but that's pretty different from intention. I have a low number for both fields, too, because my lifestyle consists of keeping a few FWBs around rather than fucking tons of random women. This assessment of "success" doesn't seem to accommodate different goals for one's romantic endeavors.

Section R

Great. Relationships. Something I have absolutely no interest in "succeeding" in. Let's totally let that be a factor in determining whether or not I'm an AFC or a PUA. :roll:

Total number of "official" relationships I've had (A): 2
Length of first relationship (B1): 1 month
Length of second relationship (B2): 16 months
How many people I've approached for a relationship (C): Now here's a confusing one. Who actually approaches women with the intention of being in a LTR with them? My answer here is zero, which would throw off any calculations you attempt to make here since doing so would create a wormhole in space or some shit. Perhaps you mean "How many people I've asked to be my GF" or something like that. In that case, let's consider the fact that I used to be a wbAFC several years ago. I asked A LOT of girls to be my gf then. That would put my "C" value at somewhere around 20. However, let's give your assessment test a LITTLE slack and leave those things from my AFC days out of the equation. Let's say 2.

success rate = A/C*100 = 100

Apparently I'm 100% successful in relationships. That's funny considering the fact that my first one lasted for just a month or less where I never even kissed her, and that the second one led me to alcoholic tendencies.

Total time spent in relationships = B1+B2 = B = 17 months
Avg time spent in relationships = 17/2 = 9.5 months

Section N

True/False section. I have quoted and commented on ones I find questionable.

1. F
2. F "I talk more than anyone else during a conversation." I'll only assume that responding to this question with a "True" will mean that someone is more of a "PUA." I'll tell you right now that it has hardly anything to do with someone's seduction skills. This question appears to propagate the lie that sociability and sexuality are one in the same. Yes, they are related, but you cannot measure one's effectiveness as a seduction artist by how much he runs his mouth. On the flip side, one could say that speaking less is more alpha in some situations. This, however, cannot cut it either. There are plenty of shy bitches who don't get pussy who don't talk.
3. F
4. F
5. F
6. F
7. F "I avoid giving too much information about myself if I don't know someone." What is this? A mPUA can choose to let a woman know everything about him and have her fall under his spell by doing so, using radical honesty as a seduction strategy, or he can withhold information to create intrigue. It can go both ways. In terms of my answer, I just don't consciously withhold any information in general.
8. F "I walk with slow big steps" I walk slow, but I am physically incapable of taking big steps without looking awkward because I am short.
9. F
10. T "I get upset when the person I'm interested in rejects me." If getting rejected by someone you're genuinely interested doesn't faze you one bit, you've got bigger problems than women & dating. Yeah, I went through that MM phase where I suppressed my interest in order to not feel down when I got rejected, but that just leads to you not feeling anything. If you can't feel pain, you can't enjoy life. If you never actually get upset when someone you're interested in rejects you, you're probably a sociopath.
11. F - same issue as #2
12. T
13. T "I change locations with the person I'm attracted to." That's very vague, but I assume you mean something like "I do venue-changes with my targets" lol
14. F "I approach as soon as possible whether or not the person I'm attracted to is alone." Sounds like you're using MM as a standard, which isn't good. I put "False" because I actually have no fucking clue whether or not I follow the 3-second rule. Most of my approaches just fall into my lap situationally because I intentionally leave myself open for such things to happen. For example, girls send subtle AIs (approach invitations) to guys they're interested in, but I sometimes incite AIs from targets by using flash game. It's like AIing a AI lol. So, a lot of my more conscious approaches consist of waiting for a good opportunity. No, I don't follow Mystery's 3-second rule anymore because I don't need it. I found a more suitable style for my game.
15. F
16. F "I wait the same amount of time the person I'm talking to does before responding." Completely irrelevant.
17. F
18. T
19. T
20. F
21. F
22. T
23. F
24. T "Within five minutes people have an idea of who I am." Whoever cannot form an impression of another person within 5 minutes is either brain dead or has never interacted with people in their lives.
25. F
26. F "If a conversation was cut off or changed, I do not bring that subject back up. Even if I have something to say." A PUA who follows MM would adhere to this technique of multiple threading, but a PUA who follows a more "alpha male" model wouldn't give a fuck about multiple threading or any of those social rules if he had something to say. He'll say what he has to say. This question goes both ways.
27. T
28. F
29. T "I show more interest in the person I'm attracted to than the people I'm with." One can only assume that you're thinking that a guy is a better PUA if he doesn't telegraph interest. Brace yourself... because all the guys here who use direct game are about to bombard you with hate mail lol. There's a big difference between showing interest in a proper way and doing it in an improper way. The fact that you are showing interest at all doesn't make or break a PUA.
30. F
31. T "I respond as soon as possible when spoken to." I understand that it can APPEAR more "alpha" to take your sweet time, but guys who intentionally take more time to respond to people are pretentious, incongruent assholes. I don't go out of my way to respond to people as fast as I can, but I don't like making people WAIT on me.
32. F
33. T
34. F
35. F
36. T
37. T
38. T
39. T
40. T
41. T "I avoid leaning in and talking." I am now fully convinced that you're all about MM. I put "True" because I developed that habit already from practicing MM, but pecking (leaning in) only backfires if you're a tall-ass giant like Mystery. Unless you're fucking tall, lean in nonchalantly and you'll be fine.
42. F
43. T
44. T
45. T
46. T "I tend to subtly mimic the behaviors of the persons I'm attracted to." The answer will always be "true." You can't help it like you can't stop your heartbeat. It's called MIRRORING and it's a natural subconscious process that creates rapport.
47. T
48. T
49. F
50. F
51. F - "I show I'm interested in someone as soon as possible."I may have put "false" since I still use some indirect game, but strict adherents to direct game will put "true." This question, like #29, is stylistically biased.
52. T
53. T
54. T
55. T "I laugh at my own jokes, even if others didn't laugh." This also works both ways. An AFC will laugh at his own shit in order to seek and elicit laughs from others as a way of seeking approval, but someone like me will laugh if he finds anything genuinely funny to him regardless of what other people think.
56. T
57. T
58. T
59. T
60. F
61. F
62. F

Section A

I looked at both Lists A and B and thought that the person who wrote it up must have learned English as a second language. The nouns should have been adjectives, etc. Many things made this section really confusing.

Women don't even use the word "congruence" in their daily vocabulary. Only PUAs do that. In fact, the girl I asked for my assessment in List A didn't even know what "congruent" meant except for how it's applied in geometry.

What is up with the "To make others feel cared for (successful)" thing anyway? What the hell does success have to do with making others feel cared for?

Anyway, my results for List A came out to be:
Confident, Socially Skilled, Humorous, Good Conversationalist

List B:
Entertaining, Outgoing, Adventurous, Leader

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:46 pm 
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Chief your score is:

Overall: 87.5%


Inner Game - 84.61%
Interaction - 82.60%
Conversation - 30%
Body language - 80%


I'll let those numbers stand on their own to your scrutiny.

Note: Its is the overall number that decides success.

The test ways each answer against the others. So there is no right or wrong answer, and certain questions are intentionally vague. Someone can have direct game, and do just as well as someone who has inderect. I spent 2 years creating this test, testing its acurracy against actual results, and refining it. Its not a simple right or wrong test.

Now to answer a a few of your questions/statements:
Quote:
I looked at both Lists A and B and thought that the person who wrote it up must have learned English as a second language. The nouns should have been adjectives, etc. Many things made this section really confusing.
Honestly, I grew up around spanish, native (American), and "ebonic" speakers, so sometimes I no speaka the english to well. And I tend to write the same way I speak.

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Women don't even use the word "congruence" in their daily vocabulary. Only PUAs do that. In fact, the girl I asked for my assessment in List A didn't even know what "congruent" meant except for how it's applied in geometry.
If you can give me a better word for congruence, I will replace it. Thats stands for anything else.

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Number of people I slept with in the last 4 months (A): 3
Number of people I approached with the intention of fucking during that time (B): 2
Thats an inaccuracy of the wording. Apparently the test that was linked to was a failed file. I will just post the full test here, no links. And unless you were raped, I can already correct your score. :)

You have slept with 3 people, and approached 2, that means 1 person approached you, and somwhere you initiated.

That means A=3

B=3

Thats a score of 100%
Quote:
Great. Relationships. Something I have absolutely no interest in "succeeding" in. Let's totally let that be a factor in determining whether or not I'm an AFC or a PUA.
Again, an inaccuracy in the wording. I apologize for this inconvenience. :(

I will have to repost the full test, give me a few.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:59 pm 
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If your intentions are to sleep with others, no strings attached, go to
section S. If your intentions are to gain a lasting relationship (multiple, open, single, etc.), go to section R.

Section S
Think back on the last four months. Write down the number of people you slept with (A), and the number of people you intended to sleep with(B).

Divide each number separately by 12. A is your average sex rate, B is your average approach rate. Take your average sex rate, divide it by your average approach rate, and multiply by 100.

A/12=x
B/12=y
x/y*100 = ?%

This is your success rate.


Section R
Write down the total number of people you have been in a relationship with (A), how long each relationship lasted (B), and how many people you have attempted to enter a relationship with(C).

Take the number of people you have had a relationship with (A) and divide that by the number of people you have attempted to enter a relationship with (C), multiply this by 100.

A/C*100=?%

Your now looking at your success rate for relationships.
Next add the total time spent in relationships (B), and divide that number by how
many relationships you have had (A). This is your average time for a relationship.


Assessment
1. I have a need for acceptance and approval.
2. I talk more than anyone else during a conversation.
3. I rarely state things directly.
4. I tend to spend money on the person I am attracted to before we are romantically
involved.
5. I let other people lead the interaction.
6. I tend to live in the past.
7. I avoid giving too much information about myself if I don’t know someone.
8. I walk with slow big steps.
9. I overcompensate my shortcomings and failures.
10. I get upset when the person I’m interested in rejects me.
11. I talk to as many people as possible when in a social setting.
12. I am relaxed and confident when interacting with people I don’t know.
13. I change locations with the person I’m attracted to.
14. I approach as soon as possible whether or not the person I’m attracted to is
alone.
15. I expect immediate results.
16. I wait the same amount of time the person I’m talking to does before responding.
17. I avoid taking up space.
18. I accept invitations to hang out.
19. Males and females think differently.
20. I verbalize what’s happening socially.
21. I seek validation for what I say.
22. I allow openings for others to talk.
23. I tend to be anxious.
24. Within five minutes people have an idea of who I am.
25. I have a fear of not being accepted.
26. If a conversation was cut-off or changed, I do not bring that subject back up. Even
if I has something to say.
27. I stand with my legs at least shoulder width apart.
28. I wait for the person I’m attracted to when they leave (go to the bathroom, dance
etc.)
29. I show more interest in the person I’m attracted to than the people I’m with.
30. I am afraid of being judged,
31. I respond as soon as possible when spoken to.
32. I generally have my hands in my pockets.
33. I keep in regular touch with people.
34. I spend as much time as I can with the person I’m attracted to.
35. I am needy.
36. I am comfortable around strangers.
37. I move my hands a lot when I talk.
38. I am persistent in my goals.
39. If the person I am interested in walks off to do something else, I talk to someone
else.
40. No relationship is perfect.
41. I avoid leaning in when talking.
42. I avoid touching people (non sexual)
43. The type of people I want a relationship with are abundant.
44. I am described as cocky and or overly confident.
45. I keep conversations going.
46. I tend to subtly mimic the behaviors of the person I’m attracted to.
47. I use the environment to set the mood.
48. I don’t get stressed out.
49. I ask a lot of questions when talking to new people.
50. I tend to have tight shoulders, fidgety movements, and or a serious personality.
51. I show I’m interested in someone as soon as possible.
52. I avoid arguments.
53. I like to display my unique qualities.
54. I’m a playful person.
55. I laugh at my own jokes, even if others didn’t laugh.
56. When interacting with others, I am myself and avoid putting on an act.
57. I tend to bring problems up during conversations.
58. I overcompensate my insecurities.
59. I tease people I’m interested in.
60. I look down or away when talking to a person.
61. I avoid ending conversations, dates, interactions, etc.
62. I follow when the person I’m interested in walks away to do something else
without me.




List A
To make others feel like an equal
The ability to makes others feel special and wanted
Comfort and connection
Congruence
Confident
Healthy
Socially intuitive
Humor
Goal oriented
Good conversationalist
To make others feel cared for
Trustworthy

List B

Powerful
Resourceful
Leader
Outgoing
Unpredictable
Bad boy
Entertaining
Adventurous
Pre- selection
A Challenge
Risk taking (successful)
Original


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