Hi guys,

I am doing pretty well with my approaches, then midgame and yet I duck out when it gets to the close, I feel awkward and it is like the real moment of truth has arrived cos many girls don’t mind a bit of harmless fun chat but when push comes to shove they don’t want to make any comittement. So, I end up fucking up the close and making it look like I am “up to something” .

Maybe I just haven’t built up enough comfort...
I don’t know but one thing is for sure, I need to work it out.
Yesterday, I did a good job of talking to this babe but when it came to closing, I just didn’t go for it and when I saw her later, i tried but it just looked a bit odd. Or at least that is how I felt.
So, if anyone can make any suggestions it would be appreciated.
What do you find are the best lines for closing someone you have just met on the street or wherever?

The real problem is that the way you think women see sex, is not how they actually see sex. Women love sex, and would like to do as frequently as they can. They just don't want their reputations ruined and be deemed a slut. They hate being deemed a slut, they don't hate actually being slutty. This is why women go crazy on spring break or in Vegas, nobody knows who they are so there are no witnesses to deem them a slut. I guarantee that most chicks you are going to meet have had one-night-stands, have vibrators in their dresser drawer, read steamy romance novels filled with sex, and read tons of magazines for the sex tips. Women are by nature very sexual beings, even more so than men. But we as men must be the instigators of sex.

These women you were talking about, went to your house for sex, it was clear to you and them. But they expected you to facilitate the sex. You are the man, its your responsibility to escalate every step of the way. This way they can blame the sex on you; they won't see themselves as sluts, they will just see you as a good seducer that made "one thing lead to another" and made the sex "just happen". Sex doesn't "just happen", you have to make it happen, it's your responsibility. Like in dancing, she may be the greatest dancer in the world, but if you can't lead then it doesn't matter.

Hey my friend,

thanks for the different slant on women´s attitude towards the wild thing.

So, to summarize you are basically saying, that women are just like men in their desire for sex but they cant express it due to social labels being put on them or their reputation so they try to hide it.

To help me with the close I want to bear in mind that hot babes like banging for lack of a better word just as much as I do- so I shouldn´t feel uneasy about it

That I guess is it, I tend to have this idea that they are like nuns and would never want any hanky panky when perhaps they are gagging for it. So, I will chill, take on the existence of their sexual agenda too and go for it.

Guess this obviosuly still doesn´t rule out the possibility of getting shut down but the main thing is that I am chilled out and wont feel like I am doing something wrong going for that hot close.

Kaliel, thankyou bro!!