Hi guys,

About 1 year ago i got into the game and had some successes since then. It's nowhere near where I want to be, but it's ok if I remember how it was before. The problem I keep running into is that all the times I've closed somebody was when I was drunk. I've tried to game when sober a few times, but then I think too much and become boring to girls (if I approach at all). For this reason I have zero day-game experience. Also, when I've numberclosed a girl I usually don't call her back because I lack confidence when sober and because sometimes I can't remember what we've talked about. Because I don't want to end up as an alcoholic I'd like to change this.

Is there anybody who had the same problem and how did you deal with this?

I am sure, deep down u know how to deal with this. Cut the alcohol man. Dont depend on it for the courage. This way game becomes more fun and u become more aware of other things like body language n stuff.

And its also cheaper that way

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So, you have AA when youre not drunk.

I suggest you lower the amount of alcohol you consume and keep sarging/approaching

or you can try to stop completely from drinking and still approach girls

You dont need to be drunk to approach girls, its just an excuse for you to not approach them. Prove me wrong about the last sentence

If you're seriously that shy that you need to drink to talk to girls........well, then I guess thats what you have to do. I mean, on my birthday I was drunk when I met a bunch of girls (names only, no numbers.....w/e) and most of the time when I'm drunk I can't even do that. Sooooo obviously when I'm sober, I'm mostly too shy to fuckin try.

Many men seem to think like this. Alcohol is a trade off; you're compromising intelligence for courage. If you can find a nice balance between the two alcohol and PU Artistry can work very well together. You don't have to give up drinking, but start drinking less. Set a drink maximum for yourself in advance on nights you go out. The day gaming and texting/callbacks come with practice and the right frame of mind.

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Hey i have the exact same problem dude, I know where your comin from. Ive done it a few times and its made me more confident when sober i dont think it shuld be used as a long term solution. gud luck

Problem Solver:

Get a wing who's able to push you to open sets in day game. Spend a month or so only running day game. Malls, parks, book stores, grocery stores, etc. Just man up to the challenge. Your first 20-30 sets might suck and be completly dry, but over time you'll get over the fear of 'what if i dont have anything to say! im boring!' Thats the underlying limitation which prevents sober night-game.

Once your back in the club stick to water. Seriously.

I've been a promenantly intoxicated sarger, but have spent the past few weeks solely on day game and I can tell you this: i see absolutely no advantage to drinking now.

who says you cant drink during the day?

(lol)I know a lot of guys like that. I wouldnt even say they sarge when they drink or get drunk;they're just more talkative.

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Lol ive found myself a solution to this exact problem ...

When i went on a trip to washington i drak for 2 weeks straight so when i headed back to canada i went on a " beer strike " ( decided not to drink fora long ass time ) but then noticed even as i drank green tea/ water @ parties instead of beer, that i retained the state of mind as if i WAS drinking

I think for me its all psychological and i jus gotta hold a drink ( water or green tea in this case ) reguardless of what it is to get into that "State of mind "/ carelessness that i had while i drank for the 2 weeks at washington

what im trying to say is that it is what u make it, its all a state of mind.
Hope this helps bud and GL

Dude Im in the same boat!!!! I am fly as shit when im drunk. Ive been trying to change it, I dont need any dui's to get her back to my pad. Keep the responces coming!

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