Ive been listening to DErek Vitalios deep inner game series and must say that alot of my sticking points have gone away. Theres still this sticking point thats fucking with my mind. You guys will probably think this shit is dumb and none of you will probably relate but here it goes. I used to have alot of anxiety. Now its pretty much gone but theres still one symptom thats left over. Back when I used to be really anxious and talked to people everything went well. But then when the other person started talking I always had a big open mouth. Its fucking weird and its fucking pissing me off. I always felt like the person in the head was thinking what is this guy fucking gonna do eat me? I tried closing my mouth but it felt fucking weird as fuck.I hate it man. Ive made huge strides with my inner game . This is the only inner game sticking point I pretty have much have. Fuck. Can any of you guys relate? And maybe help me out on how to overcome this negative thought thats fucking stuck in my head?

Thanks guys

Okay, you have pretty much describe the symptoms. But have you dug deep enough to see WHY this is the case? Is it like a power-trip? Are you secure enough in your own power?

These questions are so I know exactly where you're at. Remember, half of getting through things is asking the right questions about them. So yes, holding a burning coal in the palm of your hand is a sticking point, and it burns. Question is WHY are you doing it?

Hey mate,

I can admit right away that i can relate. I had this problem a few years back. I would go up to someone talk for a while and then all of a sudden find myself gobbling like a Koi fish, it made me feel ridiculous. I have recently come across a theory that says people who have had confidence problems or anxiety can sometimes embrace this behaviour subconciously because of fear of not getting their voice heard or a chance to speak up.

My mentor SwingKing helped me rid this with two simple exercises.

The first one was an approach exercise, i would approach people and ask a simple question regarding buses, stores and locations, basic stuff...

But each time i found myself gobbling, i would pull a save and go "its uhm" which would of course force me to close my mouth and also hard-wire a transition from this gobbling state into something which could help the discussion.

The other was to simply talk out loud in front of eg. a mirror at home, as if i was practising for a speech, it helped out alot and also helped me get a sence of my tonality and rate of speech.

Hope this helps, best regards;
Swing

Dr. Swing that was some really good advice man. And yes it had to do with my confidence and anxiety. God it feels so good to know im not the only person on earth with this problem. After last summer I had a huge confidence loss and went into depression. Depression lead to loss of confidence and loss of confidence lead to depression. A little backround on why I went into depression. Everything was going well I was getting ready for a basketball trip to my home country to try out for the national team. I didnt make the team felt like shit. My dad wanted me to stay there and practice with the team to go along with one of my coaches. I talked to my dad and my coach and they thought that I should practice with the team. I thought to myself NO! If I wouldve known any of the kids there and if some of them were my friends then I wouldve said yes but I didnt know anyone. I was pretty deep in depression and thought I should stay away from the sport a little. In my country the kids are real assholes and love to criticize alot. If I wouldve came back everyone would have thought I was a kiss ass and would have been the butt of every joke. My dad told me but what if someone gets injured youll get a spot on the team. Im like yeaa umm noo thats fucking pussy ass shit thats not me. So I denied my dad and coach and didnt practice with the team. Then I came back to the states and right when I came back my dad forced me to go to a basketball tournament in Vegas. I was fucking pissed. I needed time away from the game since I was in such a deep depression. So I went back. I wasnt the same. Before that I was the hilarious asshole everyone loved to be around. After that I felt like my conversations were getting boring and awkward. I felt like I was bringing this negative vibe towards my teammates on the team. This depressed I feel like shit vibe. Then I became needy which lead me even MORE into depression. I wanted to chill with my friends from my hometown so I started texting and talking to them alot like yoo when I get back from Vegas were chilling and was trying to be funny but not having that funny vibe I used to have. Their like ok. I get back am like yoo im back lets chill. No RESPONSE... Im like maybe he didnt get it then I sent another text message again no RESPONSE. Im like damnn his phone must be fucked up or some shit. Then I text another one of my friends no RESPONSE. Then after that I became a needy son of a bitch. I started getting alot of anxiety and lost a TON of confidence. THis is where the whole open mouth thing came along. After that me and those so called friends hung out a lil during the summer went to the beach and that was about it. I pretty much lost contact with them and found some true friends who accept whi I am. I also feel really anxious around those "old friends". I dont know why. Maybe because whenever I think of them or look into there face I remember how bad they hurt me and how Badly I went into a even worser depression. It hurts even thinking about it. Whenever they try to strike up a conversation with me I talk with no emotion with them. I dont know why maybe because I dont trust them at all. With everyone else I feel normal talking too but with those old friends I become really anxious and show no emotion while talking to them. Yea Id like to get things to the way they used to be but I dont know how. Man this is depressing.Man did that feel good. Can any of you guys relate to the whole old friends and anxiety thing? You guys are awesome. Im so happy for finding this PUA community and people taht are actually willing to help you. Thanks guys

As for Tichondrius' question. I think this is the case because I feel as if the anxiety and loss of confidence will come back again and my subconscious is saying "Oh shit here we go again". The thing that also fucks with my state and confidence is when say I see a picture of myself playing basketball and breathing really heavily with a big open mouth. Whenever I think of that I think of the experiences I have had when I felt anxious and had an open mouth. I hate having pictures taken of me when their unexpected. Now even when I open my mouth the least bit I think of those moments of back when I was really anxious and self conscious which fucks up my state.

Ive been thinking about this lately. But wouldve you guys thought that if I didnt go to Vegas for that tournament that I would not have went into the whole anxiety thing. I think its my dads fault that I went into this whole anxiety thing. I wanted to see me friends when I got back and my friends wanted to see me but he forced me to go out there and fucking play for the weekend. I couldve just been depressed about the whole not making the team thing but I feel that my dad forced me deeper into depression when he forced me to go out there. I always think what if I didnt go then maybe I wouldve just had a minor depression and would not have gotten anxiety. Man I wish I could go back in the past and change EVERYTHING. This fucking sucks :/