Hi,

cut to the chase . i dig younger a lot younger girls. I'm 44 and I like post teens(early 20s girls), and seem to gel well with that age set. Similar interests, mindset. Maybe i haven't really grown up from my teens. Anyway I went to approach 2 young oriental girls and just couldn't . Hovered around for some time. Discretely followed for a while but just could not approach. Part of me was thinking "you're going to come across as a paedophile, a dirty old man" Any idea how to shake that feeling?

Hey SB, I'm the same age as you, so know where you're coming from. As far as "shaking that feeling" goes, I can only suggest you adopt the "who gives a fuck what people think" attitude, which is basically what confidence is all about.

Some 44 year-olds look and behave like 60 year-olds, others would pass for early 30's. Age is just a number on your birth certificate, not that important. How you look and how you behave is what really matters.

Your success rate has to improve the nearer your target is to your own age and for that reason I rarely shoot below late-20's / early-30's, but everyone's different.

Hey thanks for your reply. I have been trying to think and analyse it a lot. Probably too much. I've realised I've had a domineering mother who has projected her disgust of sex onto me. So I've grown up feeling ashamed that I should like girls, find them attractive. A lot of inner work to do. I'll just have to bite the bullet and try to develop some strategy for approaches. What's the worse that can happen?

Rejection. So what, who cares, NEXT.....

Well shaking off that feeling might be hard. But think about it the first thing that's going to pop into their mind isn't "omg dirty little man", that's really not how people think. It's through your actions and creepiness that might give people that kind of view.

You sound like a guy who's game is solid.Forget about how you might come across and just have fun

if you call an asian girl "oriental" you're probably not going to get very far.

Hi Luchini,

thanks for your contribution but I really don't know where you're coming from on that. I don't try to label people. hell my ex wife looked oriental, looked asian , looked middle eastern but she's from the mediterranean!

Well some girls do dig older guys. I'm going on 20 next month, and some of my friends who are girls (and in my age group) do hook up with guys in their mid to late 30s. I can think of three girls right now without thinking to far back. It is very doing for you man.
I don't use the word Oriental, but just out of curiosity, what is your reasoning for this?

All I can say is that if you think a girl will think something of you and you approach her she will think that of you.
So if you're thinking "what if she thinks i'm a creepy old man
she'll think "omg is this guy some creepy peado or something"

so although it may be really hard you have to think instead
"she doesn't know me,and I'm great, of course she'll like me"
and if all goes we'll she'll be thinking
"I don't knw this guy but he seems pretty cool"

now the question is how to change your thought pattern

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What you're really doing is trying to predict what someone else is thinking and basing your decisions on that. You could just as well assume that any chick you want to approach loves older men. I personally don't think that age has anything to do with female attraction. It's all about confidence, leadership, fearlessness, ability to confront conflicts, etc. It's all about masculinity.

thanks guys. I think I'm getting there. If I stick to the 3 second rule this thinking will not have time to kick in. This I am finding a bit of a problem with day game in the open. If girls are walking I end up following and thinking too much.

Yes I have to project that I am an experienced man and play upon their inexperience

The trick with younger girls is to set your age (which you never should tell !!!) as the reference age.
It´s not you who is "too old", no, it´s them who are "too young".
Make them feel that you know "the thousand brilliant things of life", that they haven´t got a clue about, so they start to look "up" to you.

Use a "teddy bear" behaviour, move slowly and talk slowly and with a deep voice, that will remind them at their own father ( WHO TRAGICALLY NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD THEM !!!).
Nearly all the girls have a more or less deep "father complex" and the one big mystery about daddy (in a womens mind) is, that they never understood why daddy loved their mom so much more then them.
Of course they guess that "what happened during the nighttime in the parents bedroom" might be the reason.

This means that for young girls sex is subconscious allready one of their considerations when they deal with mature men, which is perfect for you.

Unfortunately you will be seen as a "pervert", if you try to get their phone number "the regular seduction way", so listen carefully what she tells you about her life and try the find the situation, where you could be usefull or helpfull for her.

That might be her damaged car (you know a guy that it will fix for little money), or a friend of yours that is offering a job that she might be interested in, or the artist friend of yours that makes a Vernissage next month. In case you find something that is interesting or usefull for her, she will "beg you to take her phone number" in order to be able to take advantage of you.

When you have her number and some 5-6 days later meet her, you will "have to make the difference" to the young guys. Show her ONE of the thousand brilliant things you know about life to impress her, but don´t make a big deal about it. I promise you, she will go nuts for you.

From here on you can use the normal seduction patterns.
If you are planning to have sex with her, make a difference to the young guys too. Do it on an empty beach, in the woods, anything that is extraordinary or special will do.

Since young girls talk a lot a with their girlfriends you can be sure, that, in case she had a good time with you, she will give you good references, so the other girls will be automaticly "very interested" in you too.

Thanks for the input Sun. Yes it is a about setting the frame. I'm trying to avoid all the usual PU terms. Some good stuff about father figures in there. In a way I guess you're saying take it a bit slower and direct approach maybe doomed for failure.