So, I was out with two friends to watch a small band play at a hard rock club.

They are really shy and are terrible wingmans and/or "energy kicks".

We find a spot with a spot with a table with a 3-seated couch on each side so I sit next to a friend and the third friend goes to buy a beer. Three girls comes and asks "Is it okay for us to sit here?" because it was pretty crowded and you could see the band pretty good from our spot.

I ask one of the girls what her name is, without leaning forward, and she replies something which I can't hear. I repeat my question with a louder voice. I still can't hear her answer.

There is a pause between two songs so I ask her again:
- "What is your name?"
- "Lovisa."
- "And your two friends? Don't they have any name?"
- "Something + something"
- "You don't look like a rock chic?" (She was wearing jeans, a white blouse and had blonded hair instead of the "normal" black leather jacker and black hair)
- "Yeah, but I am!"
(Here comes her friend in and say to me that she has alot of rock outfits at home etc.)

After that small conversation they leave our table to go to the stage and watch the band.

It will be a short and pretty uninteresting FR today. The thing is, I think theoratically on what I can/should say to these girls, what I can do if I approach the set of girls "over there" or something like that. There were alot of beautiful and sexy womans, which I would like to approach but didn't! I miss out to much and I can see it so clearly now!

Sure, I say "Hi!" to girls in the street, introducing myself at different clubs and taking one (really) small step at the time, but I am not improving as fast as I have potential for.

I read some articles and posts here, have ordered some books, which was recommended in one of my other FR etc. but the practical side is the though side!

I need some preassure from someone, a wingman who is equally interested or more into this, some challenges from you member so I are forced to do it! It is not good to go out with two shy friends and just analazying my game by myself and with no preassure from them!

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I find it hard sometimes getting motivation around my afc mates, or mates who acutally go out to drink and stuff....

So I dont go out with them,

Id recommend either hiring a pro wing or find sum people on here to sarge with who have experience etc...

Which rock cafe were u at?

Yeah, I think so to that I should try to find some other guys which are more into picking up womans and not so AFC.

It has not a "Hard Rock Cafe" (as in http://www.hardrock.com/) , it was a hard rock club named "Harry B James" in Stockholm and they almost always have some kind of live performance. Very loud music though so hard to start a conversation!

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ah right,

I used to game alot of girls at rock clubs / heavy metal music venues and stuff, back when I was gaming without direction i.e. didnt even know I was a PUA lol.

I really like girls who into rocky kinda music, its nice sampling from other sub cultures and not just "the beautiful people" altho being a swede they all hot neway yes?

not sure of the smoking laws but in the UK between bands everyone rushes to the bar and smoking area/beer garden. This is a perfect time to start conversation as for getting approaching I found it really hard to get motivated. I still do to a degree, so usually only go for girls I really like or if I am on a getting drunk night girls I know I can have.

You should hunt for a wing it makes everything so much easier than hanging with guys just out to get drunk.

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We have alot of beautiful swedish girls, even though I prefer asians and latinos!

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I live in Sweden and here you are not allowed to smoke inside so they have a little place outside, towards the street, which is often very crowded. I should have tried to start more conversations here but it was mostly guys or girls in a group with guys (Yeah, yeah ... Blame it on that you chicken!).

I really need a wing, and I know that especiallt after last night, which can help me analyze and improve my game and of course I do the same for him.

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