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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:10 pm 
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Out at a club last nigh with mates (gals and guys), one of our girl friends brought a few new girls out with her that us guys had never met before. Anyway while sitting in the chill room relaxing on the sofa's, one of the new girls in the group was eyeing me out constantly from the couch across the way from me, when ever i looked at her she would smile from ear to ear, her eyes were locked on me for a while, it seemed she was serious about getting me over to talk to her!

So i ignored her. Then 10 min later i saw her talking to one of my mates in a very bitchy manner and proceeded to pull a zap sign right in his face, done in quite a rude way and not subtle at all. My friend (who would not have sauid anything rude) backed down and sat down on the sofa and the conversation ended, he was defeated.

At this point i thought who does this girl think she is...so i called to her from about 10 meters away...'hey come over here'...she looked at me and immediately came over to me. I said 'Gosh but youre the rude one tonight arent you?' she says 'why??', I say 'well first of all you flipped my mate the bird (pulled a zap sign), and if thats not bad enogh you havent even introduced yourself to me but yet continue to stare at me from the other side of the room!' (said in a playful way). Then immediately the shit tests start from her side and she starts getting very aggressive and looking me in the eye very seriously...so i tried to break her pattern to shock her system and randomly said 'my word you have awesome eyes....(her attitude changed immediately)...i proceeded to say in a playful manner…'they’re almost as awesome as mine.' …(she had green eyes and so do I, so I kinda saw it as a commonality/connection but delivered it in the form a neg)

Then her attitude changed back to bitch mode again once she heard the neg and she tells me im very arrogant (all this time you could tell she was engaged else she would have walked off long ago, she wanted to stick around and test/beat me clearly), so i try turn it into a game and say 'oh really im arrogant? give me 3 good reasons why you say that,you have 1 min starting from now'...every reason she gave me I would simply say 'sorry thats not a valid reason dear, you still have 3 to go.'... she started getting more and more hectic as i was getting her to jump through hoops and i was just not submitting to her bitchy ways.

Then eventually she started getting really frustrated by this as she just couldnt get me to submit...she ran out of come-backs and was getting extremely frustrated by this, she had met her match. Then out of the blue she turns around, stuck her nose in the air and stormed off to the couch about 20 meters from us waving her hand in the air as if to say 'i cant believe you just said that, now leave me alone!!!'. ie. she made a scene. Meanwhile i hadnt said anything nasty to her at all, i kept stern yet playful the whole time, she just couldnt stand the fact that I wasnt backing down to her. Anyway so she made sure EVERYONE of my friends and girl friends saw her little tantrum and there i was standing in the middle of the room. Immediately my mate shouts out to me 'jeez mate what did you say to her??' and there i am left looking like an asshole because of her bitchy tantrum-throwing exit strategy.

what would you have done in a situation like this to maintain your value and not look like an absolute asshole? (which lowered my value in front of everyone including some really hot women who were joining us out for the first time that night). I mean even though I beat her at her own game face to face, she still got the better of me because of her little tantrum in front of everyone.


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:26 pm 
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If she wasalready interested in you why play that game? you fucked it up man personally if she flipped off my friend I would have asked her to come over and ask why she did it, you say your friend would not have said anything nasty but my friends would say I would not say anything nice but that is not true they don't hear everyuthing I say I can be and am nice when it suits me.
Secondly when you gave her the chance to show you 3 reasons you fucked that by dismissing everything noone likes to be completely frustrated when I get that frustrated I want to break things and my anger shows to everyone in the room, a girl just throws a tantrum, the way I would have played that is acknowlede 2 within 40 seconds and then don't acknowledge one until the 60 seconds is up then say ok your right that's 3 no wait a minute that the 3rd one was after 60 seconds it doesn't count when she disputes I say ok I will check with the judges and turn to the right put my finger to my ear and pretend to be talking to imaginary judges and say yes understood then turn to her and say the judges say no sorry but I am not arrogant you did well though better than anyone else ever has that way you have negged and complimented her and in my experience the judges call (which I have stolen directly from Van Wilder) normally gets a laugh as well which would have lowered her defence mechanism.
IMO you engaged her in an arguement that was totally unnessary you should have hit her with ESP, openers, the cube test, a magic trick anything except engage an arguement even a playful one is still the most risky of all openers.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:11 pm 
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thanks for the advice man.

if she was interested why did i play that game? i wasnt overly interested in her i called her over to see if ai could crack her, practise i guess. I didnt give a dam about the outcome.

The thing is I wasnt really arguing with her at all...i was being very playful and she would continue hit me HARD with bitchy remarks...youre right though i probaly shouldnt have dismissed her 3 suggestions blatently,should have played along and given her some credit as she went along guessing 2 reasons etc.

The thing is (and youre going to think why did i even spk to her in the 1st place), i mainly called her over because she seemed like a bitch. ie. a challenge. my friend who she zapped is a softy, and i could see their conversation and how it went, what she did was plain dam un-called for. she did it very rudely, i was 2 meters away. You see this girl wasnt one of those HB's that simply had a bitch shield up to prevent AFC's from chatting to her, she was being bitchy/rude to everyone, even the girls. without sounding mean she was simply not a nice person in my opinion (from what i saw of her anyway). normally my playfulness would have got the girl laughing, i often manage to crack the hard nuts fairly easily, but this one was nasty on the inside. With this girls its almost like she didnt WANT to play and was there speaking to me purely to boost her ego by putting someone else down. ie. me. (sounds victimizing but you get peopel who do this to cater for their insecurities of course).

There is only ONE thing i can think of which could have prevented this and would be somethign along the lines of david d's advice 'why would you even WANT to talk to a nasty/bitchy girl, just leave!'...if I had picked up that she was a bit of a nasty bitch on the inside and that it wasnt just a shield that she had put up, then i should have picked this up and did to her what she did to me, but BEFORE she did it first. ie. the SECOND I sensed she was a nasty character i should have just turned around and said 'my word youre pretty scary to talk to' ,smiled, and ignored her and immediately started chatting to my mates while she was left standing there. Sounds mean but she deserved it in my opinion. maybe that would have changed her attitude and she would start seeking approval by grabbing me by the shoulder from behind asking me why she is scary to talk to etc. then she would be the one after me and might have changed her attitude to be a little less scary.


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