my natural online "game" is kinda messed up. It seems to me women generally want fun first and comfort later, I deliver that the wrong way round. Ironically it does work on some women, usually above my age (late 30s) and cynical about men. I dated a couple of older pretty hot chicks from it...however it requires women open on me because it needs their interest in my looks to sustain their interest till I get comfortable and interested enough (i have standards) and start ramping up the fun aspects. If they're responsive Its win win cos by then they know i can have a normal conversation and have a decent attitude to life and My mid game is pretty strong I'd say because I'm very patient and will chop and change with flirting, stand up to their "dubious" opinions and generally be intriguing and challenging.

The trouble is the number of women who will open me, be interesting enough to me and responsive is pretty small and it totally doesnt work on younger than me women, who never open me and if i manage to open them...they get bored before I get comfortable, know enough about them to want to ramp it up and have some material to work with...It's not that I particularly want younger women, just more choice..

my sticking point I guess is getting women who dont open me interested enough that I can find out about them and get to work on my mid game...I'm stuck as to how to achieve this as I dislike 'canned material' intensely but cant think up any of my own that fills this gap. doh!