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Yea, I understand...it definitely is wide open. I guess the main goal is to meet up with her, probably a date I guess. Is something direct here a good options as far as saying something to the effect of her getting the opportunity to go out with me? Making it seem more like a privilege to get to be with me and less of a "can I" take you out? I guess it's not very PUA like to want a girlfriend, but I think I'm just at that stage, you know? Not that I'm throwing all my eggs in one basket for this chick...but I guess my goals for online at least are to try to meet a girlfriend type.

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Could you help me with writing an 'about me' on facebook?

See I really don't have clue what to put. Here's what I have right now:
''Hi I'm Adam, I'm 18 and I'm from Danesmoor. I'm studying sport at Chesterfield College. I do a lot of boxing, kickboxing in my spare time, I love it! I love meeting new people, so add me and say hi :)''

It sucks right? See I'm shit at describing myself because I don't wanna sound like I'm either bragging, seeming needy like I'm after peoples' approval, or sounding completely different to how I am in 'real life'.

I've been working on this stuff and I'm a confident guy, but I'm still very quiet. II want to put this in there somehow without sounding either shy or anti-social. I added in my hobbies which are boxing and kickboxing, and added in that I'm studying sport in college. I also like going out round town with mates.

I'm just stuck on how to put it all together and sound interesting at the same time. Help me please?


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Yea, I understand...it definitely is wide open. I guess the main goal is to meet up with her, probably a date I guess. Is something direct here a good options as far as saying something to the effect of her getting the opportunity to go out with me? Making it seem more like a privilege to get to be with me and less of a "can I" take you out? I guess it's not very PUA like to want a girlfriend, but I think I'm just at that stage, you know? Not that I'm throwing all my eggs in one basket for this chick...but I guess my goals for online at least are to try to meet a girlfriend type.
Linwood,

Good, it's not AFC to want a girlfriend at all and someone to hang out with. Believe me an actual relationship is far more rewarding that going out pulling random girls all the time.

Basically you need to develop a game plan. As the old saying goes, "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail." We need to have an idea of what we are going to open with that is congruent to what you are like. What we are going to transition too in most cases to help build comfort and attraction. We should have the first few interactions already down for the most part.

Since you are wanting a relationship and working online, I'd recommend a more direct approach to things. Something more along the lines of

"I came across your profile and find you interesting and attractive. I can't help but wonder if there is more to you than meets the eye? Please tell me.

Curious,

(Your Name)"


This is purely an example but you can use it and modify it to fit your needs.

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Could you help me with writing an 'about me' on facebook?

See I really don't have clue what to put. Here's what I have right now:
''Hi I'm Adam, I'm 18 and I'm from Danesmoor. I'm studying sport at Chesterfield College. I do a lot of boxing, kickboxing in my spare time, I love it! I love meeting new people, so add me and say hi :)''

It sucks right? See I'm shit at describing myself because I don't wanna sound like I'm either bragging, seeming needy like I'm after peoples' approval, or sounding completely different to how I am in 'real life'.

I've been working on this stuff and I'm a confident guy, but I'm still very quiet. I want to put this in there somehow without sounding either shy or anti-social. I added in my hobbies which are boxing and kickboxing, and added in that I'm studying sport in college. I also like going out round town with mates.

I'm just stuck on how to put it all together and sound interesting at the same time. Help me please?
Adam,

I agree that we really need to work on this. We need to work on what to write about you. We can certainly do this together on this thread actually.
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It sucks right? See I'm shit at describing myself because I don't wanna sound like I'm either bragging, seeming needy like I'm after peoples' approval, or sounding completely different to how I am in 'real life'.
Everyone has a hard time with this, don't beat yourself up over it. Many guys can't describe themselves well, actually I know a lot of women's profile that stink too. I can understand where you are coming from. I don't want you to lie about yourself at all, because I need this profile to be congruent with who you are. We won't be bragging or approval seeking.

What I need from you is some more talking points about you. Tell me about your personality.

Are you social, outgoing, intelligent, witty, sarcastic, funny, laid-back, positive, up beat, adventurous, etc? Help describe to me what your personality is like and what type of sense of humor you have.

What kinds of stuff do you do? I know you said boxing and kickboxing but what else? What do you do for fun? Do you go out, if so, where, what types of places are they. If you stay in, what do you do then? Can you cook? Do you like reading or watching movies? Tell me about your skills man....

Have you had previous relationships with women? If so where any of them for a period of longer than six months? Do you have guy friends that you like to spend time with, if so what do you typically do?

I'll need at least this much information to help formulate your about me area for Facebook. I won't make it a bragging type of thing but I will need this information to help pick and choose to construct a good profile for you. After I do this, I will break it down and explain why I said what I did, and what it helps do.

If you don't feel comfortable sharing all this here, then please "PM" private message me.

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Well to start off I'm pretty quiet. I'm not shy or scared of talking to people, like I'll talk to someone if I have something to say, but I still don't talk a lot. I'd say I'm pretty intelligent. I'm very laid-back, easy-going. I do help my family and friends out a lot and I'm very loyal. As for my sense of humour I'm pretty silly and childish; I like silly roleplaying and sometimes I just twist peoples words round and turn it into something silly and funny, most people love it and some people just don't get it. I'd say I'm adventurous as I like trying out new things and I'll have a go at anything.

As for what I do, well boxing, kickboxing and lifting weights I do that a lot, while I'm not studying. I train pretty much everyday and I have done since I was like 10. I go out at weekends with friends round nightclubs. I like watching movies,and I love horror films. I likereading about psychology, and magic, sort of like Derren Brown stuff cos I find all that interesting. I like reading biographies rather than fiction because they're real. I've read stuff about a lot of different boxers, bareknuckle fighters, gangsters, all that sort of stuff.

I have had relationships with women, but the longest one I've had was about a month, because I got bored and I didn't find any of them interesting. I'd say I spend more time hanging round with guys than girls because of training boxing and that, but I actually have more girl friends. I don't have a lot of spare time to hang around because of college and so the spare time I do have I spend mostly training with the guys, or I'll be out round town probably one night a week with my friends (mostly girls)

So there we go that's pretty much all I can think of :)


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Well to start off I'm pretty quiet. I'm not shy or scared of talking to people, like I'll talk to someone if I have something to say, but I still don't talk a lot. I'd say I'm pretty intelligent. I'm very laid-back, easy-going. I do help my family and friends out a lot and I'm very loyal. As for my sense of humour I'm pretty silly and childish; I like silly roleplaying and sometimes I just twist peoples words round and turn it into something silly and funny, most people love it and some people just don't get it. I'd say I'm adventurous as I like trying out new things and I'll have a go at anything.

As for what I do, well boxing, kickboxing and lifting weights I do that a lot, while I'm not studying. I train pretty much everyday and I have done since I was like 10. I go out at weekends with friends round nightclubs. I like watching movies,and I love horror films. I likereading about psychology, and magic, sort of like Derren Brown stuff cos I find all that interesting. I like reading biographies rather than fiction because they're real. I've read stuff about a lot of different boxers, bareknuckle fighters, gangsters, all that sort of stuff.

I have had relationships with women, but the longest one I've had was about a month, because I got bored and I didn't find any of them interesting. I'd say I spend more time hanging round with guys than girls because of training boxing and that, but I actually have more girl friends. I don't have a lot of spare time to hang around because of college and so the spare time I do have I spend mostly training with the guys, or I'll be out round town probably one night a week with my friends (mostly girls)

So there we go that's pretty much all I can think of :)
Thanks Adam,

For the "About Me" area based on what you have said here is what I would write if it was me. Again, feel free to reword it and make it your own words, but definitely keep with the content.

Your Original About Me
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''Hi I'm Adam, I'm 18 and I'm from Danesmoor. I'm studying sport at Chesterfield College. I do a lot of boxing, kickboxing in my spare time, I love it! I love meeting new people, so add me and say hi :) ''
Revised About Me

What you don't recognize me? I'm Adam. My best friends would describe me as a man of few words while at the same time being confident, humorous, intelligent, adventurous, loyal, and laid back. Think that is a lot to take in? I care a great deal about my friends and family and would do anything for them if the need arrised. They are very important aspect of my life.

Most days you'll find me working out and cutting up at the gym while boxing, or kickboxing with the guys. From there I like going out to nightclubs with my guy and girl friends, watching a good horror movie at home, or reading a good book. I love going out trying new things any chance I get.

On a deeper level psychology and magic are topics that entertain my mind, and I enjoy reading about. As you can tell I stay busy and that's the way I like to be. I'm always up for meeting new people so feel free to send me a message.


I hope you enjoyed this. Here is the "WHY" behind why I wrote it this way.

You said that you are pretty quiet but I wanted to put a positive spin on that, and wanted to describe your personality right away as best I could. Hence....
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What you don't recognize me? I'm Adam. My best friends would describe me as a man of few words while at the same time being confident, humorous, intelligent, adventurous, loyal, and laid back.
The I want to start getting the DHV spikes or Attraction Spikes in as quickly as posisble but make them suttle. I continue with this confident playful tone in the message.
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Think that is a lot to take in? I care a great deal about my friends and family and would do anything for them if the need arrised. They are very important aspect of my life.
I go immediately for Protector of Loved ones demonstration of higher value. Online this is very important to show you are a good guy and a provider in a sense. Showing you are normal is huge online.
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Most days you'll find me working out and cutting up at the gym while boxing, or kickboxing with the guys. From there I like going out to nightclubs with my guy and girl friends, watching a good horror movie at home, or reading a good book. I love going out trying new things any chance I get.
I wanted to get your hobbies in without trying to come out as bragging. I inserted that you hang out with men and women. This triggers the pre-selection attraction switch, but also shows you don't just hang with women, cause that can imply you are AFC.
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On a deeper level psychology and magic are topics that entertain my mind, and I enjoy reading about. As you can tell I stay busy and that's the way I like to be. I'm always up for meeting new people so feel free to send me a message.
I wanted to insert this in here because a lot of women do find psychology fascinating when I talk to them online or in field. This also adds some depth to you as a person. Showing that you stay busy is somewhat a DHV as well since you aren't at home playing Video Games all day long. Finally, I called the reader to action to send you a message.

That is the reasoning behind all that I did. I tried to keep a confident and playful tone through the About Me section. I don't feel that we are misrepresenting you at all. Again, if you want you can use this as is or reword it to your taste.

Hope it helps,

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Wow! Sounds great. Thanks a lot for the help Jon! :)


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Wow! Sounds great. Thanks a lot for the help Jon! :)
Glad I could help! :D

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Hey Jon. Thanks again for helping me out with facebook. I just wanted to ask about Adultfriendfinder. Should my profile be the same on there as it is on facebook? Or should it be different? Because the girls on there are all just after another fuck, so do you put different shit in there?


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Hey Jon. Thanks again for helping me out with facebook. I just wanted to ask about Adultfriendfinder. Should my profile be the same on there as it is on facebook? Or should it be different? Because the girls on there are all just after another fuck, so do you put different shit in there?
Yes, you would want to sexualize your profile some. Nice guys don't really stand a chance on the site. You still want to incorporate a few DHVs but you are focusing more on pre-selection and non-needy behaviour. It's important she thinks you are safe to be around, and attractive to other people.

Obviously, you are going to list what your sexual preferences are for the girl you want. The format basically stays similar but you are just incorporated the sexual element of it all.

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I met a girl at a mall, talked to her for five or ten minutes, qualified, did some surface-level comfort chat and went for her number. I was getting some good IOIs, while talking to her. She said she was going home for the Summer (out of state) and would give me her full name for finding her on FaceBook. I found her and we've added each other.

How would you suggest I proceed?


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I met a girl at a mall, talked to her for five or ten minutes, qualified, did some surface-level comfort chat and went for her number. I was getting some good IOIs, while talking to her. She said she was going home for the Summer (out of state) and would give me her full name for finding her on FaceBook. I found her and we've added each other.

How would you suggest I proceed?
BruceWayne,

In order to establish continued comfort and to go back to those good emotions she felt in the mall I would message her with something included from that conversation. Because you are reminding her of that time when she felt good meeting you and stuff. This is also known as anchoring. It's something I use a lot of when I first message someone back whether on text or online.

I might say something like, "Hey you, Are you up to no good again? Remember that thing you did at the mall......Seriously, I just wanted to say Hi and tell you to have a great day!"

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Thanks, J. How about that $20 workshop?


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Thanks, J. How about that $20 workshop?
This pretty much sums it up.

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HEY HOW CAN I MAKE MY PROFILE BETTER, HERE WHAT IVE GOT SO FAR-
s this profile any good, how do i mske it better?
Mucho gusto me lammo JD….. I belive music is life, punk is truth and honesty is always the best policy. You’ll often find me tearing in up in a ggame of horse or bouncing around in the middle of a mosh pit or otherwise generally living life to the fullest. Don’t sweat the small stuff, life’s too damn short, I like to talk, love to listen and hate playing games. I’m here to meet cool people with similar interest, im not after a one night stand. If ya like what ya see hit me up if not…. Peace in the middle east PS. 1000 cool points if ya know what song my first line comes from


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