Hey, guys. I'm just getting into the game and there's this girl I'm after, but she seems to be going for this other prick (at least when she's drunk). How do I waste this douche and put myself in his place? He's an energetic talker, so he gets a lot of attention. I tend to be quiet and reserved (I'm working on that as part of my training) and my game still isn't good enough to out-shine him. I feel like I've still gpt a shot at this chick, but I need to shut this guy down. Should I AMOG or BFD the guy or what? I need to make this guy look like such a chump she won't even go back to him if she IS drunk. PLEASE help me destroy this asshole. Thanks.

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Omeo

Hey man... It seems like this guy got game...

If you really wanna get good enough to outshine him you need to learn fast! Like faster than I ever seen anyone learn.

The only way to do that is practice. Go out there and open 20 sets each night and you might learn enough. On the other hand it will be tough and no guarantees!

Try to use some magic tricks (its effective) to get her attention but be a little bit serious when u perform it.

Good intention but I think that this guy needs more than a few tricks to win... It seems that he is familiar with the girl and also the other guy... As soon as you know a person you can more or less forget the DHVing... It should have been built within the first minutes, its all about a good first impression. She already have an opinion about you... Thats why it is hard to give advice about "there is this girl" types of problems...

We specialize in "there will maybe be this girl tonight but I never met her so how would I know" types of problems...

Okay, here's my idea on how to destroy this guy. It's based on his reputation as a "ladies man" who goes after drunk women and his talent for being the social center of the room.

Me to the girl: "I think it's great that you're giving him a chance to disprove his reputation for being a ladies man, or should I say drunk-ladies man. I'm sure that's not true anyway. He doesn't strike me as the kind of loser who preys on drunk women. I'm sure he respects you and values you too much to take advantage of you like that.

I also think it's great that you're giving him some of the attention he seems to need."

Okay, so I haven't developed that last part too much, but still, your thoughts?

One thing I'm trying to do in that first part is to talk him up and make him seem better than he actually is. How do you think I did? Was it too obvious? I'm also going to try the AMOGing technique of not being impressed with any of his antics.

Any feedback or advice on how to perfect this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Omeo

You do know that you won't be able to AMOG him especially if he's good at being the centre of attention. If he's the centre of attention, there is a reason he is and him being naturally attention grabbing would beat you any day. So focus on making yourself more interesting as oppose to making him uninteresting because you won't be able to succeed with this. Trust me.

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Why is the Rhum gone?!

You know it always feels better to win because you were the better option than to win because you destroyed his game...

True, which is why I'm gonna try to do both. The good news is, he's going away for a couple of months, so I'll have that time to work on her and make her forget him.

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Omeo

5 will get you ten that at the end of 3 months when he gets back she wants him even more. So you better work it hard champ.

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SIC VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM

Okay, but what do I do? I see this girl maybe once a week. I thought maybe she was interested in me, but now I'm not so sure. I've sent her a couple of relatively innocent facebook messages, which she hasn't replied to. What do I do about the guy? How do I make her forget about him?

Btw, I AM keeping my eyes peeled for other women, but there aren't many to go around, here, so I'm focusing on her until someone else distracts me. I think my window is closing on her, but I'm still gonna try.

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Omeo

Dude in reality it sounds to me like your playing the game against someone on a much higher level than you. The fact that he is going away to you means he is going away to her it means he is still coming back. Also remember just cause he is away doesn't mean he is away. He will most probably still keep contact with her through either phone, email, facebook etc.
Now never suggest to just give up I think losers give up even if not giving up results in a loss atleast you showed your a competitor. Personally I think your right your window is closing a little she sounds like she has lost interest in you (An asumption made by the fb messages not being returned) If she was interested in you all fb messages would be returned even if a question was not raised or atleast that is how I percieve it. What you need to accomplish now is find out to what extent has this lack of interest reached and what can you do to make yourself more interesting to her?
ok first of all find out about the lack of interest check your sent messages and see if you asked her a question if you did and she has not replied the answer is alot. If you never asked her a question then send her one and see if she answers it, a simple question like I was thinking of getting a new tattoo and I would like your opionion any suggestions? You don't have to get the tattoo you have opened her to a personal question that can be answered in one of 3 ways this will show her interest.
1. She will not reply showing she has no interest in you at all she won't even reply to your question.
2. She will give a simple quick answer like yeah get tribal art or no I think tattoos are tacky etc. Showing she feels obligated to reply as you asked her opionion but by not going into detail showing that she does not want to spend too much time on your reply. This IMO shows a little interest.
3. You get a full reply with several suggestions of not only what to get but where to get it and perhaps a small story to go with it such as yeah get tribal art on your shoulder I think that is hot. I love tattoos I think *******'s tattoo is awesome you should get something like that etc. Or I have a tatto on my lower back have you seen it? That shows a good interest that she has not only given you the time for a decent reply but has also shared a story with you an obvious IOI.
Now once you have identified what level of interest you are you have to decide how your going to boost your appeal to her think about why she likes this AMOG and think of the qualities he is portraying that appeal to her most and see if you can model them. I would suggest since you only see her once a week to try and maximise your time with her or open situations to get her to come places with her.
For instance tell her you have tickets to an event or even the movies and your date or friend cancelled does she want to go with you. I don't know how popular you are but maybe throw a party and invite her be sure not to invite the AMOG and as many of your closest male friends as possible to give yourself maximum social proof.
There are a million ways to get to spend more time with her I am sure you can find one suiting for you, learn a few magic tricks, try some NLP or mind tricks with her.
If you feel like she is starting to like you offer to play a game this one I find always works for me I tell them I bet them $5 I can make them say the number 6 then they say ok then you say but if I win you gotta give me a kiss watch for her reaction if the idea of kissing you grosses her out then you never had a chance if she pauses for a couple seconds to think about it playfully say wow you have to think about it ok then if kissing me is so bad you can just give me $5 if I win they will usually just say no it's ok the kiss is fine (the pause is often the ASD and by given her the other option it often closes their thoughts of doubt) I have found that 99% of the time they smile and or giggle and say something like your on I'll take your money. Now win or lose with this game it still builds a little repoir so you have nothing to lose.
Now how the game is played since she has to say 6 ask her 3 +3 she will give the wrong answer try to be funny with this game and say yeah I never payed attention in school either things like that keep asking her multiplications that don't need to have a six in the answer ask her 23 + 3 if she says 26 she is not very smart and you have won your kiss most girls will not lose that easy so keep it going for about 3 mins then ask her 3 + 4 when she says 7 say huh I won I will have my kiss now and almost 100% of the time they will say no way the number was 6 not 7 then smile and say I know but you just said six so how about that kiss.
The type of kiss you will get will vary and I am sure you can guess her interest level from there try and play more games with her be fun that is how you will beat an AMOG.
Hope this helps man and good luck.

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He does have way better game than I do. He's more talkative and probably funnier, two things I'm actively trying to improve in myself. I've been a wallflower most of my life until I started reading about the Game.

I think the window may have already closed and that they're a full blown couple, but I'm still gonna try anyway. Normally, I'm against stealing women away from a guy, but I saw her first and he's got a reputation for being a "ladies man" so I have to doubt his feelings for her are sincere.

I'll check my Sent messages and see if I've asked her a question and if I haven't, I will. One thing about her not getting back to me is that she has admitted that she's terrible about getting back to people when they call her or send her a message. We've actually been planning on going to this art supply store near where I work, but last month she said "I can't go now because I've spent too much money lately. I'll definitely go with you after I get paid." I have a three-hour break at work on Tuesdays, so I have time to go with her. Last Tuesday, after she got paid, we were suppose to go, but then some of our friends decided they wanted to have dinner and go see the new Star Trek movie and she decided to go with them. I'm planning on sending her a text tomorrow to see if she wants to make it up to me this next Tuesday.

I might try the game on her depending on how she behaves toward me the next time we see each other. That's the thing, I haven't seen her since I sent either of those fb messages, so I don't really know what her attitude toward me is. We talked for a few minutes on the phone last week after I sent the first message and she showed no sign of being creeped out; she was as friendly as ever. That was when she canceled our plans to go to this art store, though.

Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the advice.

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