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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:12 pm 
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Alright guys. I've been seeing this girl for about six months now. We talk pretty much every day and she's always happy to hear from me but we don't see each other as much as i'd like. It seems than when she has spare time on weekends or whatever she rather spend it with her friends. She's a sociable person so i accept this to a degree and i've never complained about it but its starting to become annoying. It seems the only time she's asking to see me is when she does something to piss me off and it looks like i'm ready to end the relationship. At times like these she's called and told me that she 'can't see herself being with anyone else'. Throughout the relationship i've avoded acting like an afc and think i've retained alpha qualities but its becoming challenging. I've concluded that she's the type of girl that just wants what she can't have which is obviously a major catch. It almost appears that she's just trying to keep me sweet as she would hate me to start seeing other girls as she has serious jealousy issues concerning female attention towards me. Is there any way of getting the desired affect of wanting her to do stuff together more often without finishing it or does that look like the only option? Cheers guys


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I would recommend stop trying to hang out with her. By you constantly asking her to hang out it shows that she can have you whenever she wants, on her terms. I would stop asking her to hang out and wait for her to ask you. If she doesn't ask her after a week, "hey, me and my friends are going to the movies (or whatever), care to join?" If she turns you down, play off of it. Make it seem like it doesn't bother you if she doesn't go, because you have your other friends going. Keep trying that type of invite every now and then and she'll eventually break and see that she's missing out by not hanging out with you.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:59 am 
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Chees for the advice Jac, it seems very logical.
Il put that into play, cheers mate


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I agree with Jac Cecil, but to take it a step further, in order to be in a place where you can easily not hang out with her without feeling stress about it, I would start building up a small harem. What I mean is, get out there and pick up as many girls as you can. I think you'll find if you do about 12 or 13 number closes, which can easily be done in a day or two, you will have enough to keep you busy. Put your GF on the backburner and enjoy some new pussy. You'll be amazed at how much more attention your GF wants after you have some pussy glow on you and you've ignored her for a while.


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If you want the tactics to work, do what Clozer said, but don't close on the women. Get the ten numbers, then start hanging out with the women. In public. Be flirtacious, but not sexual. Show your current girl that you are high quality, and can have other women...but choose to be with HER. No reason to start closing those girls until you decide to officially end it with your current (which you should do if this doesn't work).

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:39 pm 
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Guys, foremost, greatly appreciate the help. However, i didn't even get a chance to put the great advice to good use. On the thursday of last week i spoke to her on the phone and she said we should meet since we haven't seen each other in a while which was good news, so i said i'd see her round hers the next day. I said on the phone that if we weren't going to see each other much then maybe it would be best to see other people, which i think scared her to sort a date out. The next day she'd finished her exams at uni so she was out with friends drinking for an hour or so, in that time i'd already got a text saying 'are we still doing something? I'm out with my friends and going back to mine soon...'. In not even 24hrs she was back to her old ways. Anyway she said she still wanted to after i said i was easy about it. She sent me another text when i was on my way round asking how long i'd be and asking if i'd set off yet. So, i turned up at hers and called her from my car but two of her friends were waiting for me at her window and they picked up her phone which i though was wierd since that hasn't happened in the whole time we've been going out. Anyway, they wouldn't let me in and told me i'd have to wait out side for about ten minutes, i was already thinking that this isn't quite right. So i got inside and they wouldn't tell me what she was doing but she'd be about 5-10 minutes. I went in the kitchen and there was about 7 of her girlfriends there all with looks on their faces which said something was up. So five minutes later, my girlfriend comes in the backdoor with a grin on her face, not even spotting me. Then when she did she couldn't even look me in the eye. One of her friends then went out of her way to tell me how drunk my gf was in front of her. I felt something was up, it was just a gut feeling, the back yard gate was open and without sounding crazy i had suspicions she was talking to/ seeing another guy. I made and excuse and said i had to go and do something and that i might be back soon. I asked her in passing conversation as i was leaving what she was doing outside and she muttered nothing just smoking. It just seemed strange that her friends, some of whom i know quite well and i get along with and knew before my gf, would tell me i couldn't come in and that my gf would be 5-10 minutes instead of just saying she was out the back having a cigarette. These suspicions aren't unfounded though, she has already got with another guy which i broke up with her over and a number of other people have told me it wasn't the only one, and even gave me the name of the guy she had and where and when it was. My gran passed away on the same morning so it didn't make this any easier to cope with. I just don't wan't to talk to her again and am really determined not to. I feel free without her and realise that she was just bad news and i should have gotten out earlier. Any advice on how to handle this though, she's going to ring me and i just don't want to let her talk me round? Thanks man, top advice last time boys


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Ahhhh the rage... doesn't it make you mad? I could see it happening as if I was there, I must have been through something similar in the past.

First, I have to wonder about your "friends", were the "something is up" looks condesending or akward? Were they trying to hold back grins, or were they looking at the floor, maybe smiling akwardly, like something bad was happening? if the former - they're not your friends, they're easily manipulated by the alpha girl who is actually just a hussy, and are siding with her hoping some of the alphaness will rub off on them. If the latter, then they're still your friends, and just wanted to avoid a bad scene, probably thinking you don't have to find out, she might clean up her act later on.

As for your "girlfriend", I would let yourself feel that rage, and don't forget what it feels like, so that in the moment when you confront her next, (phone or face to face) you can focus it into no screwing around alpha behaviour. Of course it goes without saying, this emotion should be channeled into alpha behavoiur, and not some afc loser behaviour who would actualy use that rage to get verbally or physically abusive and lose his cool.

Now some other guys here might have more finely tuned advice for your situation than me, since I'm basing this off minimal experience for this kind of situation. I have only recently had the opportunity to end a similar situation to this in an alpha way. But this did work for me. It doesn't feel that great having to tell someone you have a really low opinion of them now, but it feels a LOT better and a lot more empowering, than taking the position of the battered-house wife and looking like the loser in the situation.

But here's my advice; if you are absolutely sure she's going to contact you first - that's perfect. Prepare some key points you want to mention and how you'll end it. Sometimes what happens to people is they let the other person take control of the situation when that person says something they didn't expect. But you stay in control. Don't forget what she did, don't forget who she is. You know she's cheating (that she couldn't look you in the eye when she entered the room is reason enough). You know she thinks she can have you whenever she wants. You know she had to have all those girls cover up for her, and how low that is. And you know she doesn't have the decency to say any of this to your face. And you know you don't need to put up with any of her shit any more, especially when you have your gran passing away to deal with.

So plan out how you want the conversation to go, and relax, knowing it will go your way because you won't entertain her excuses with a direct response - she doesn't deserve that kind of courtesy. When you relax, knowing you won't hear her excuses, you'll be able to deliver it without the slightest waver in your voice. Just dead pan. You've already made your desicion, hers is competely irellevant - that's alpha, in this situation. And you have to have something cool to end the conversation with, and you will then end the conversation. You will have the last word, that's also alpha.

Later on you might feel like "shit, should I have done that?" but then you keep thinking about it, and what state of mind you might be in if you hadn't have, and then you realise again, it was the right choice. And you have to go through that thought process, every time that AFC voice pops up. From that experience you'll be better prepared for the next time someone tries to screw you over and I believe you get a bit of alpha behaviour experience in you as a result of this situation. It gives you more confidence for the future. You won't have to worry about someone calling you and "talking you around" again.


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Conker, i couldn't have asked for any sounder advice. You hit the nail on the head when you talked about how her friends would hope for some of my ex's alphaness to rub off on them, ridiculous. Yeah, but i'm just waiting for the call, i've got a good idea of what to say and i won't have a problem keeping my cool, i'm just glad to put this one to bed. Cheers mate


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