While there are girls that read the game they are probably the type of girl that would see through the game anyway. As a logical sense a guy who has no game is still working his own game when he is trying to pick up a PUA just learns the rules, the girl is gonna work out at some point that you are trying to get into her pants the point of the game is to have her wondering whats in your pants by the time she realizes you are trying to get into hers. Having more PUA just add to the challenge and ofcourse the community so they help in both senses. As to how many people actually count as PUA I would say a very large majority of men are aware to this but very few can adapt and use it effectively.

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He he, I would say that a very large amount of the guys calling themselves PUAs are in fact rAFCs...

You make a good point though. If a girl finds out that you are a PUA she might think that you are trying to get into her pants, if you are an AFC, she is sure about it... How much worse could it get?

He he, just read the other posts in this thread...
Imagine going up to open a girl just to find that it is Zip! That would be amazing! It would be like meeting one of you guys in field! Oh, so you are a PUA, any special forums? Oh, the MPUAforum? How nice Im a moderator there... Always nice to have an interest in common!

Hahaha, it's happened I'm the best thing that could ever happen to you in field... because I play along.

Here's the thing... it doesn't matter who's into it, who's not, if a girl knows game, or if she doesn't.... you just have to roll with the reactions to your material..

if she calls you out on it, own it! It's fine... my favorite comeback to a girl saying, "OMG are you one of those pick up artist guys?" is...

PUA: Do you care about how you look?
HB: Yes
PUA: Do you read magazines or go to makeup counters to figure out new things to do with your makeup?
HB: Yes
PUA: Okay. I care about my love life so much that I've decided to study it. So, judge me all you want, but if you want to stop being a hypocrite, buy me a shot.

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I wrote: Zip wrote: He he, You are now officially "one of you guys"!



Good comeback, why apologize for something thats natural.

In my opinion (although I am happy that we still are quite few) every single guy should learn this... It is like learning to behave. A PUA is never mean, insulting, clingy, unpleasant or dangerous. Above all a PUA never intentionally hurt anyone, physically or emotionally.

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I think it does. What if the girl you open has heard your opener for 50 times already in real life ? You would be busted.

PUA is not needed in the non-Anglophile world. Girls are MUCH MUCH easier to deal with. You are not a suspect from the beginning. I am not just talking about Eastern Europe (God's chosen land for high caliber girls). Even wealthy Western Europe countries like Finland are easier places to get to meet girls. Feminism has destroyed the Anglophile world. I suspect some of you guys (when you get older) will start looking into countries like Ukraine.

I recently had 3 stunning eastern european women open me outside a bar, literally as sweet and friendly as they were hot, I was like WTF is going on here. So damn straight I am hitting eastern europe at some point

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This is why canned openers are like training wheels... you don't necessarily use them when you're comfortable with yourself ... you balance on your own.

and so what if she calls you out on it... own it. go back to my previous post and use the routine I gave there.

I've been saying the same thing for years. I'm a girl. I'm in the game. I know some of the top guys in the game. Trust me.

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In my country, probably like 1 in 10000