Hey Evo
I agree with you...Starbuck's chest looks pretty impressive..nearly as big as mine lol! Ok, OK, enough of that, I didn't come on here to flirt or pick up so excuse my tease!
But his chest does look good. I like men's arms, chests and backs...sexy.

But yes, you can quote me, re-post of whatever you think will help, happy for you to. I have dipped into other threads so you may come across more of my ramblings lol

Red x

Thank you. Oh and I DID notice in a few other threads but I haven't even gotten past replying to the replys of my replys. lol... or something like that.

Anyway, I appreciate the prompt reply and I am going to repost it as soon as I can. Thnx for the help.

EvoJ

Oh I'm sure they thought I deserved it. After all I'm a man.
Thanks for the kind words. Not offended in the least.

I'm 46.

I'm a former Marine and let's just say I've done a lot of push ups in addition to manual labor. Still do. No body builder I just like to stay in decent shape. I was also an extreme outdoor athlete in my mid to late 20's (rock climbing, surfing, wilderness backpacking, etc..). I still do some of that stuff but not as much as I used too. When I hit about 30 I needed to get serious about getting a life and making a living. Unfortunately being a legend in your own mind doesn't pay the bills.

I'm fortunate I was blessed with fairly decent genetics for that sort of thing as well. I'm 6'0 tall so I hide extra weight well. Right now I weigh about 185 lbs, but 175 would probably be closer to my ideal. Heck nobodies perfect.

Sugar momma wouldn't really be an accurate description. We both pull our weight in different ways. A few years ago I designed and built her a log house out in the woods. I maintain it, she drives up and enjoys the fruits of our labor, etc.. and gives me a credit card and an allowance. I do a few other things for extra cash, but nothing that even compares to what she brings in. We have no children, just a cat.

She has a very good job, with a very good company. And she has an advanced degree. Me? I got cowboy boots, a nail apron, a hammer, a commercial drivers license, etc... None of which is worth a whole lot in this crazy assed upside down society.

While we were building our log house one Christmas I asked her to buy me a bobcat to do some landscaping. She took me by Home Depot one weekend and bought me a wheelbarrow and a shovel instead. I was tickled pink. Reminded me of my parents.

I haven't always had it made. In fact up until I was about 36 I was been mostly screwed around in one form or another. Employment wise, etc.. Heck I was a long haul truck driver for 10 years and didn't have the time or the money to date. Nothing in common with women other than going to a bar. It was incredibly FU. Met my wife in the personal ads when I finally landed a semi local job.

Women, especially of the younger variety? Yeah they just don't get it. They think all guys are loaded, make six figures a year, work in an office and can provide them a life better than daddy. Doesn't go over too well when reality rears it's ugly head and she find out you can provide her the life of Paris Hilton.

Look man I live in the bible belt. Jim Baker country. I can't describe what some social circles are like down here (oh you're in Alabama you know). Let's just say they're a little different. And was never one to fit in with that crowd. Besides being an only child, I had to learn to love my own company a lot anyways.

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Hey Starbuck
I must admit, they sound very different to women in London! I don't think many of them (well, OK except the stuck up ones) expect a guy to be rich and treat them like a princess! I would hope we've moved on a little since then lol.

This comes up a couple of times in 'Sex in the City' -a girls series maybe, but any good PUA should watch it and see a girls POV..but I know women who earn more than their partners or same as, or less even, but still don't expect to be spoilt financially all the time. It's not about that as far as I am concerned...I'd rather a guy was thoughtful than rich.

My preference anyway.



My bloody bath nearly overflowed then! Got to go get ready for a night out...wish there were more proper PUAs round here, might actually be entertaining and exciting for an evening rather then drunken slobs about!
Happy weekend everyone!

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What do you do when he tells you he needs to go on the road for three weeks?

And he drops the half assed paycheck off when he gets back for a day or two before his company expects him to do it again?

Things are screwy over here Red. Even for those with great jobs. Sure good jobs exist and some people have them. But people are working more hours than ever, and have less time to do things. Some routinely put in 100 hour workweeks, feel like they're married to a company and just don't have time to get to know somebody the traditional route.

If you're just a working type you're screwed all the way around.. Illegal immigration has forced wages down to the point where many working people are barely making it, if at all. That is if their decent job hasn't gone to China and been replaced by something in the service sector that pays half or less. While the politicians and their business interest supporter get richer exploiting the whole mess.

It's just not a great environment for relationships to flourish. And while we were serving in the military, etc.. daddies daughter had her ass in college and now she's taking all the better inside, nice jobs. More power to her.

But in her head she still has expectations that the guy should make more money than she does, lead the relationship, drive a nice car, have a nice residence, etc.., if he's a successful human being.

And usually it's us guys who get the blame for the whole mess and for our failure to live up to their expectations. She certainly deserves better. We all do.

We rarely get it. Just the way it is. I hope we can be friends in the meantime.

Easier to take it all out on each other I suppose. The way of the world perhaps.

Just because my ship came in, doesn't mean I have forgotten.

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I was going to add stuff but it is just straight up and simple. Starbuck is right. Women down here in the south (I live in Alabama) are freakin nutz.

I make next to nothing (You would be suprised) and I work for a huge company and have a decent job for around here. Yeah it is cheap as dirt to live... but not to date or even go out.

And Starbuck, I didn't mean to imply that you do nothing except pleasing your woman. And just to let you know, I would kill to be in your situation lol.

EvoJ

Heck Evo, that's about it. I please my woman. In more ways than one. And she pleases me. It really is a two way street. And when we met I was 37 and she was 33 so we were both fairly mature with no children, and had both been married before.

When we met we were making about the same money. But since then her income skyrocketed while mine seemed to be stagnant. Now she makes more than 3 times what I've ever made in my life, and I was able to tell the trucking industry that screwed me around for so long to kiss my ass. You know the deal, no unions down here and the companies take full advantage of the situation.

You'd better know somebody on the inside that controls the funds, etc.. or prepare for a hard life. Plenty of people out here making a killing as well. And they able to keep most of the action for themselves by doling it out to whomever they choose.

Fortunately she's fairly realistic and down to earth. She also grew up with three brothers, in a decent family. So guys aren't an alien species to her.

Sometimes I feel like a trophy.

She likes to take me down to town and parade me around like a fancy poodle or something. I'm alright with that.

After all she could have married a doctor. I suppose she wanted a rugged individualist instead. Boy, she sure got one.

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[quote="Starbuck]Sometimes I feel like a trophy.

She likes to take me down to town and parade me around like a fancy poodle or something. I'm alright with that.[/quote]

LMAO.

And yes, I know exactly what your talking about (In all those areas lol.)

Where abouts you live man? Anywhere near Alabama?

EvoJ

Northern S.C. near the border of NC and SC, about 40 minutes from Charlotte.

Used to travel through Alabama.

Saw many a hottie as well. Usually with somebody totin' a shotgun not far behind.

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Ah, yeah I have a friend up in Raleigh. Good guy, says that it is nice up there compared to the Alabama heat.

And yes, we have some very nice HB's down here. Unfortunately, they tend to be veeeeery heavily guarded by their AMOG's. It is rediculous. I had a guy actually threaten a friend of mine recently. My friend went up to get a drink from the bar and he was next to this HB8 while ordering. Their shoulders rubbed together and she turn to look at him. My friend smiled at her and she smiled back and then the AMOG immediately stepped in and pushed him saying "Back off, she obviously doesn't want to talk to you." This statement alerted his 3 rather large friends. And so my friend came back to our table going "WTF was that!?!? I go to get a drink and get hassled by GrapeApe and his simian friends."

It is rediculous man. And don't you DARE get them preggers (Or we call it "Rusting her tin roof." Remember it from "Love shack" song? yeah.). IF she is carrying your bun and takes you to court.. your losing!

My really good friend married this HB9 a month before he left for iraq (he met her 2 months before that). A month before he Returns she says she wants a divorce. He gets home and goes to a lawyer and says "What can I do to this crazy bitch who married me for my money while I was away and wants to take half my stuff?" The lawyers (Plural) said "Give her what she wants. I can take her to court, but you will probably lose. This is alabama, she is a woman. Cut your losses and give her what she wants."

It is nuts. Just freakin nuts.

EvoJ

You guys need to get to London lol

It sounds different there...you say all girls are the same, but I'm not so sure...our surroundings, people we know, socilasation makes us different in some ways...not all I agree..but in some ways.

i shouldn't be writing tonight..too much booze in my system to write anything of sense or worth lol

xx

There's a quote I love from a Marilyn Monroe film (she, to me is the most beautiful woman ever!) and I think the quote is a clever one.
It's not necessarily what I want, and it's not what alot of women want these days, but I think the basic principal rings true and makes a very good point.

It's from 'Gentleman Prefer Blondes' (sadly for me, I have dark auburn hair lol!)

She's accused of being after the guy she loves just because he is rich and everyone thinks she is just a money grabber...but she really does love this guy (in the film!).

So as she is being hassled to admit that she only wants to marry him for hsi money, she says to (I think it's the Father of the rich boyfriend)-

"Don't you know that a rich man
is like a pretty girl?
You don't marry her
just because she's pretty.
But, my goodness, doesn't it help?
Would you want your daughter
to marry a poor man?
You'd want her to have the most
wonderful things in the world.
Why is it wrong for me
to want those things?"


Just throwing this out there....food for thought..women can be seen as bitches for wanting a guy with money, but really they probably just want a nice life without too much struggle, then you can enjoy being with someone rather than worrying about money and debts all the time...and if you want attractive girls (there's alot of talk about HB9-10s) then what's the big difference really? Not having a go...as I say, just food for thought...

xx

I have no problem at all with women who are looking for a easy ride monetarily. AND I can see the connection between guys wanting beauty and women wanting money. But, they need to realize that if I am going to go out become rich so that I can afford to have them they need to realize that I can buy an Amazing hooker/"working girl" for a grand (and I do mean amazing!). So if this woman thinks she is all that and she wants to chew through my money like nobodies business then she best know that I will treat her as if she is What she is.

She can treat me as if I am shallow... because I am and I want what I want (Not "Settling" for anyone). And I can treat her like a whore if what she wants from me is money for her companionship.... because that is what she is and she shouldn't have to settle for anything less.

jeez are u seriously 16? i wouldve guessed about 22-23 ish

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I'm not 16! But if you mean Tickler, I think she said she was?

Evo-I wasn't saying a guy has to spend loads of cash on a girl, no way...just that some girls may want to be 'looked after' that way. But I don't know many like that.

And if you want to spend loads of money on a top hooker, go for your life...am sure it would be a very fun night indeed! lol