Look either committ to a relationship with girl you are already ENGAGED to or do yourselves both a favor and say goodbye so you can work on your "skills". The fact that you would even be on a pickup site is pretty selfish in my opinion! Why are you here? To make yourself more attractive to other women???

This girl loves you and doesn't even have a chance at a fair relationship because your mind is somewhere else.


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Wedding rings=/=hand cuffs


I'm gonna blow your mind: We live in the year 2009. Google divorce rates. Marriage means shit nowadays. Stop thinking it's a life time contract. Snap out of that 1930 mindset. It won't do you any good whatsoever.




Hope it helps



@chief, totally love the butterfly story.

Well, the real problem are American/Canadian women (Brits as well). I will be perfectly happy one day being married to a beautiful 19 year old Ukraine girl when I am MUCH older. I have met some amazingly refreshing girls the last few years. Traditional and pure of soul. Like I have said before, America is a very masculine country. Very selfish and aggressive. That shows in the females.

Before someone bitches at me I suggest you travel to certain parts of this world when you get old enough.

Marriage is something that many of us want one day. The concept does have some value. Not all of us come from broken homes.

the first post i made was a stray thought i was having after being motivated by reading the book the game by neil strauss. I was on this site before i was engaged or even dating my fiance. i get motivated easily, for example i wanted to be a boxer after watching the rocky movies. i know im a teenager and i am going to change over the next few years and be a completely different person. The only reason im trying to convince you guys is because it would be nice to have somebody on our side, no body seems to be. Even though it would be nice, it seems as though im not going to get it and ill have to do without. learning to be a PUA isnt just about getting women to sleep with you its about changing your life... mystery said something to that effect... and thats why i come here for advice, because PUA are people who have positively changed their lives and seem to know about how the world goes around. I'm not taking marriage lightly. We are talking about every aspect and any doubts we can think of and working it out together until the problems are solved and the doubts are eliminated. I came to the PUA community about 3 years ago because i was looking for a way i could make a relationship work so i could eventually get married, and now i have found the one i want to spend my life with. When i was in the game i wouldn't date anyone that i wouldn't consider marring someday. I can see where your arguments are coming from, to you im just a teenager that feels like he has to rush through life or it will pass him by. And i might have a problem with the scarcity thing because i decided that i wasnt going to marry or even sleep with a girl who wasnt a virgin, i didnt want a girl who would have developed feelings that deeply for another. And this one meets and in many places exceeds my prerequisites. She isn't perfect, she has adhd which makes it hard to talk to her on the phone, and she hasnt learned how to channel her frustration properly, but im not perfect either and i want to be with her as we move closer towards that perfection in our lives. Thank you guys for your advice and i hope you are happy in whatever your endeavors may be. I will stay on the forum to give advice to those where i have experience so ill see you guys around.

This seems to be emblematic of the worries the people here have. It is wonderful she meets your prerequisites. I, personally, don't have any. I will meet anyone. So I guess your fiancé meets mine as well. This is a perfect place to begin a relationship. You know, before the word "Hello".

But as the relationship develops, you have to have higher standards. Perhaps you don't kiss a girl you haven't set the date for, but surely you meet a lot of people (actually, the attitude of not dating someone you wouldn't marry is something I have heard before. Let me tell you right now that requiring that will emotionally stunt your attachment to other people. You can't set a date and start talking to caterers before the first kiss). And some of the people you meet aren't ever going to be any more than friends. And some of the people who are more than friends will only be best friends and "adoptive" family. I have plenty of these. And the tiers go all the way up. The key is to find the people that make your life the best it can be. And statistically speaking, you have not met the best girl in the world for you. Almost no one ever does. She makes you happy, and a lot can be said about that. But you have to realize there are gradients. Those are there to make sure we don't go too far with people we aren't meant to be with. And perhaps I depart from the mainstream wisdom of the Lothario culture here, but you can't go all the way with someone who isn't _the_ one, regardless of what all the way means to you and her. I am talking about someone who is so right for you that even your hesitant acknowledgements of her flaws are just a ruse and you can't see anything wrong with her.

Now, obviously I may disagree about a couple things. But that isn't what you are asking. You want to know if you are going too fast. The answer is _ALWAYS_ "If you had to ask." Would you feel right being intimate with someone who you have only known for a while, and are already having stray doubts about?

I hope this helps

Stick to day game. Malls, beaches, have 4-5 preset openers.

You're 17 and engaged. You've got your whole life to live and you're tied down to one girl.

You need to think whether you want to live the rest of your life with this girl (you obviously don't when you're considering others) or want to be free and learn PU and fuck different girls etc.

imo, you dont need to be engaged.
youre 17, not even out of high school. you have thoughts of cheating. youre worried your pua skills will become flat. youre too immature for a lifelong committment.

dude why the hell are you engaged at 17? thatdoesnt even make sense? like previously stated it seems like you are immature, especially when you havnt even got out enough to develop into a true pua, that you already are scared of your "power". i think you really need to think alot about your decisions and what they will entale on your life...

GoodLuck

F|y

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