Hello guys, I am really new to this. Currently a hs senior getting ready for college next year. I’ve been studying this stuff for a couple of months and I have had some successes.

But I have a problem: There is this really attractive girl who is friends with a close friend of mine (that’s a girl). I will refer to the attractive girl I have the problem with as hb1 and the friend as hb2. So, I asked hb2 to the mall to hang out, she tells me no at first through a txt. I didn’t text her back immediately. Then she texts me again that night asking me who I was going with, I still didn’t reply. I wait until the next day, mostly because all of this texting was happening when I was sleeping. So I wake up and see all these text messages, and I kinda forget about them. Hb2 texts me one last time saying that she decided she was going at 4’o clock. Immediately after I get a txt from an unknown number saying my name with question marks. I decide to respond to hb2 and say I can go. After I text hb2 I texted the unknown number and apparently this was hb1, hb2 told hb1 that I wasn’t responding to her so she texted me. I told her I was sleeping.

So I go to the mall, hb2 is there, hb1 is there, and another girl was there, all the test’s start coming in waves at this point. Basically they were trying to see if I would take there sh**, which I do not. I did the whole c&f stuff and the interaction went well. Hb1 actually said “I like this guy” after some playful conflict. I recognized this as a test to see if I would lose it after she said this, which I didn’t. Well long story short hb1 comes into my workplace all the time, and I think that she is into me.

Me and hb1 have the same study hall, so I ask hb1 to meet me in the library so we can talk. She tells ME to meet HER in the cafeteria (cuz that’s were she is at) she was trying to get me to break my terms, which I don’t want to do. I go through some c&f stuff, but she is still set on me coming to the cafeteria. I’ve asked her twice in the same type of way, but got the same results. I told her that if she came to me this time, I would go to her the next time give and take. I say: your study hall must be amazing to pass up talking to me/ she says: it is amazing. I do not respond

I basically start ignoring her at this point. She trys to get my attention at school in subtle ways I cant really explain. She pops up at my work AGAIN looking all nice and stuff, she just gives me that look and starts talking to hb2, who was right next to me. Hb1 then ignores me and walks off.

I don’t know where to go from here. I want to pursue further interaction with hb1 but I don’t want to come across as a wuss or ask her a third time to come to the library to talk. How can I keep the attraction high, get her to hang out, but still without looking like a complete wuss. HELP NEEDED!!!

HB1 is at the bottom man.... Up your standards.. Or maybe you got them mixed up? HB10 is the highest.


You've stood up to her at least, don't let her walk all over you. Don't ignore her as much. But thats good she keeps txting you it shows she likes you.

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Giovanni

yeah, thats my fault I was just using the terms hb1 and hb2 to represent each person not there attractivness. Newbie mistake, but hb1 is the one I'm after in the original post

Basically she is playing hard to get. . . its okay to play a little, still make sure YOU are playing hard to get as well.

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i texted hb1 today something like: *Warning* martians are coming to abduct all the hott people, you are obviously safe ______. just texting you to say good-bye my friend.

I got no response, is it time for me to cut my loses or is she gaming me

Ion you figured out something that takes people years to get over. You will have no problem becoming a PUA.

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Giovanni

its just hard to get man, your gold

agreed Giovanni

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"Everyone's got a little captn in 'em"

Ok so yesterday I texted her the basically canned “alien text message” and there was no response, so I didn’t respond back and acted normally at school we didn’t talk (unaffected)

Today I get a text message like this from the girl (quote):
FWD:FWD:FWD: IN 2010 the US Gov will start shipping retards away. My eyes watered when I thought of losing u. B strong. Wear ur helmet & take ur crayons (end quote)

Does this sound familiar, it’s a canned text message. When I started to analyze the text I came to this conclusion: the FWD: meant that she has received my txt numerous of times and is metaphorically sending out canned messages to the other losers. she obviously knows the canned text messages. This was my fear from the start when using txt messages from a list, there cool, but chances are most hott girls have come across a pua or two who is using the same material. Original material is best. I viewed this as a total shit test, to see if I would crack. I ignored the shit test and replied with this:

(16 minutes later)
Me: are u going 2 stop stalking me at _________ or should I just learn to accept weekly (name) visits bahahaa
Her: I never see you..
Me: u are such a coconut (name)!! at least im hoping “(name) the coconut”
Her: coconut?
(didn’t respond)

I called her a coconut, because later in the interaction (in person) I was going to use this slightly modified canned gambit: “I called you a coconut because on the outside you are not nice, bratty, stubborn, etc. but on the inside I know there is a more sensitive sweeter side. And that’s the only reason why Im still talking to you.”

I initially viewed her canned text as an IOD. But then I realized that she wouldn’t waste her time shit testing someone she is not interest in.

After this all went down. I go to work and guess who shows up. YUP! The girl!! She comes and I tease her about being a coconut. Still playing hard to get though, like not paying attention walking and trying to lead me, I just walked away. She came back though and it went well. I was not able to run the gambit because I had to get back to work at the time. Im excited though because she still doesn’t no why I call her a coconut. I’ll let that curiosity bubble awhile haha

Overall I can safely say that she is totally into me, just from all the signs. I feel good about this one fellas.

Seems like you are ready to escalate. You have the IOIs and you are both playing hard to get. So I would say it's time to move forward. But you can do that while still playing hard to get. For example, ask when she is taking YOU out to dinner, or a movie. When she laughs and doesn't give in freeze out. Punish her. Then ask again, so about that dinner. When she finally agrees you use a time bridge to explain you can't do it on her terms (whenever she says, regardless of if you really have plans), but you'll meet her on your time, and tell her when she is allowed to take you out... Basically, you are both playing hard to get and someone has to force the other into submission. You can't be the one to submit. Those are just some ideas of ways to move forward.

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-Giacomo Casanova

!!WARNING I TEND TO MICRO-ANALYZE!!

Ok you guys, its been a while since my last post and a lot has happened regarding this specific situation.

I do not see my target regularly throughout the school day, so most of my game has to be communicated via text messages. I read Johny Zulu’s advice and sent the girl the following.

Me: So have u decided where we’re goin yet. Movies, lunch, etc. im busy this weekend so maybe nxt wkend
Girl: haha what?
(earlier in the interaction, I teased her on bad relationship skills, because she wouldn’t come to the library)
Me: oohhh yeah, I forgot.. your bad at this! this is the part of the relationship where we go out and get to know each other, it is called…..F-U-N =]
Girl: youre crazy
Me: youre a coconut
(no response)

(freeze-out of a couple days until prom)

So I get to prom and see the girl with her date. Her date is a relatively week alpha male in my personal opinion, but I digress. I approach the two-set and greet her date first (we are kinda friends) with the classic hand-shake-hug combo. I turn to her and she greets me with a smile and gives me a hug. After giving me one hug, I start to end the hug and then she pulls me back as if I didn’t do it right the first time. The night goes on and I sense she is watching me, the proximity was really there. She didn’t seem like she was having a good time with her date (unexpressive face most of the night). The night comes to an end and I see her and the date standing idle near the bathroom. I walk toward them and she gives me “the stare”, I stare back and say what?!?! Her date leads her quickly away to avoid conversation, while she continues to stare at me. A day after prom I txt her the following:

Me: (name)!! that death stare u gave me last night was pretty intense!! I culd juss feel tha emotional chemistry bubbling btween us lol
Girl: bahaha
(don’t respond)


I see the girl at school today and she gives me that same stare. I throw up my hands and say: what is with you?!?! (while also laughing). She starts laughing and walks away. So I re-initiate a text thread today, it went like this.

Me: wats up my little coconut!, so how’s that date idea comin along bahaha I was thnking something like racquetball at the rec. fun fun fun =]
Girl: Haha you are retarded
Me: sticks and stones my dear lol but don’t avoid tha question (name)!
Girl: haha. Im tlking to (prom date guy). So there is no date.
Me: ok, well it was nice meeting u. (prom date guy) is a really cool kid. u guys will be great together! He seems like your type =]
Girl: bahah wow. Did you not notice it when you saw us together holding hands at prom?
Me: I wasn’t aware that holding hands was a universal symbol for “we are totally in luv, I am taken, do not tlk to me cuz!” but its all good (name)! he’s a great kid.
Girl: bahaha.nice. youre lame.
(the girl is a jr. I am a sr.)
Me: u kno you love it (name) haha. have a great senior yr! tomorrow’s my last day of hell!!!
(no response)

(I will note that the time frequencies between text messages went from 1hr for the first one, all the way down to a few minutes for the last txt, after I detached myself from her she responded faster. Don’t know if this means anything)

Well this has been pretty intense, I feel like she’s just threw out the “we are talking” theme to try and throw me into crazy jealous guy mode. I went with the bf destroyer approach by praising the guy (even though there not even dating). I don’t know if I’ve killed my chances entirely with the text messages I sent. The only way I can see, hanging out with her is through the friend again. Is there any hope for this situation, what should I do, this girl is crazy and I feel like she is a pua herself haha

That'a boy! Good job man! She most likely didn't answer because she couldn't carry the convo or just didn't get around to it! I wouldn't worry. I myself forget and am to lazy to answer txts sometimes.

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Giovanni

You seem to be holding yourself pretty well man. In my opinion, whether she is "talking" to someone else or not, there is nothing wrong with flirting. You seem to be doing a good job so far with the fading in and out part. If she is "talking" that doens't mean she is taken yet, so keep at it if that is your goal.