Hey guys,

Something has just got into my mind and I think that I need to post it to know what you guys thinks, especially the experienced one. I know I should've posted this long before, but it's better to be late than never,right?

Since from the start, I'm soo lazy at closing every girl, or sarge a lot. I sarge or close only the girls I like, I won't even bother closing a 7. HB 8 is the minimum. And then I go further than just looks, because I won't get into a relationship with somebody who has no quality behind their looks. And I'm a guy who's only into relationship game.

So, do you think it's possible to have a great game by building your lifestyle, make a lot of friends of possible, be genuinely attractive and still have amazing game??
Because I've seen some natural who closes a lot, but not by spending their time in gaming or practice sarging, but they build their lifestyle and therefore, they become genuinely attractive.

Would love to hear from you guys.

Best pal,
Steven

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Building an attractive lifestyle is a huge key to doing better and pulling. Think of guys like Sinn, Captain Jack, and others who live the lifestyle and pull women like crazy. There is a lot to be said for an attractive guy who has his stuff together.

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Look . . . .I'm all about the "lifestyle" but game is game. You either have game or you don't. I'm sure you know plenty guys with nice cars, lots of friends, money, great looks, but still have absolutey NO GAME.

On the either hand, there are plenty guys . . . lots of them posters here who have very little and still have game. You can't replace your conversation skills, attitude, knowledge, experience, etc . . .with a few material things.

Of course all those other things help . . . but you still have to know how to utilize those things right? All those thing you mention . . . to me, are like "props" for a play. You still have to hop on that stage and perform.

So work on all that other stuff but there has got to be some reason why you don't wish to go further on "actively" pursuing women. Dude . . . this is the most fun part of the game. You just have to get past that initial hurdle. . . close a few. Then the World looks different. . . .seriously. (Perhaps you feel you need to keep sex + relationship in one sentence) Unfortunately . . . and I believe this with all my heart, you'll never reach high levels until you F close a bunch of women.

Wasn't Sinn homeless for awhile? I remember listening to some LoveSystems audio product with Sinn that he said he would pull girls back to his shed and tell them "its just like camping!"

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I honestly couldn't speak to that. I hear of a guy called "Gone Savage" who is kind of like that. He has a blog - http://gonesavage.blogspot.com/
Those posesssions you mentioned that some people have don't mean anything. That is not the "lifestyle" that I am referring too. What I think we are all referring to here is the lifestyle where you are working to improve yourself. You go out and date the women that you have met. You do things for youself, and go out, have hobbies and interests. You are actually living life instead of just sitting around letting time slip out of your fingers. That is what I mean by living the lifestyle.

On that note I do agree with Kasabi that those posessions don't mean anything and you can certainly do a great job without any of that stuff.

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And on that note, I still think that there are plenty guys who do plenty things for themselves, have hobbies and interests . . . and STILL have absolutely no game. How do I know? I was once a guy who did every sport (school and outdoors you can name) who traveled extensively . . . knew more than one language. Played several instruments. Hobbies? . . . too many to list. I could give presentations to executive yahoos as well jump into and hold conversations with just about anybody from all walks of life. Had many circles of friends all over the World . . . and still had no game. And I have many "outgoing" friends who still haven't been able to turn the "game" switch on.

Now I will say that our little game came extremely easy for me. All it took was a realization that I could apply myself to what we call "game". Once I realized this . . . it was . . . really almost too easy. Still, none of these "self development" things will give you what you need to go up to a girl, engage her in a seductive way, and give you an opportunity for various forms of engagement with a girl.

We still need to learn the basics . . .

I was living in a tent for a great deal and still brought girls back, the camping spot became home to many parties in the woods as well.

I literally had nothing, but who i was as a person.

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Hey guys,

It's really nice to have your opinions here.

Kasabi: So, building an attractive lifestyle helps you on making stories about yourself?? I mean if you have an interesting lifestyle, people will always love to hear about it. But still, with no game u can't make those things happen?? Then I have to go sarging one more time. It's been 6 months since I last sarge. Its' getting really rusty.

So guys, which one I should build first now, my lifestyle or my game??

Best pal,
Steven

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"Live every moment of your life as it is the best"

"Grief is the price we pay for love"