Hi everyone,

I'm kind of new, but i'm trying to escalate a girl i like (but i also have a girlfriend of which she knows). Could this routine work (if you've established atraction and comfort)? Can we make it less clunky?

me: Can you help me out, i'm trying to figure something ouy, What do you think of as cheating? (if she's sitting ask her to stand up)

Girl: ...

me: Holding hands like this? (hold her hand like you would do with a kid)

Girl: ...

Me: Holding hands like this? (interlock fingers)

Girl: ...

Me: And how about hugging? (give her a normal hug)

Girl: ...

Me: And hugging like this? (give her a hug from behind, your arms/hands on her belly)

Girl: ...

Me: And if i look at you like this ( look her straight in the eye, and smile)


If she hasn't said yes on anything, kiss her now and ask "and is that cheating?"
If she (laughingly) says: "Yes, that's cheating" on anything
reply either: "Well if i already cheated, i might as well finish the job.. (KISS)" or "Well if you already think that's cheating, we really shouldn't do this (KISS)"
If She says anything in the line of very serious "yes, that's cheating" and pulls away, ABORT, because you aren't there yet and maybe say: "I actually thought the previous step was cheating, but you seemed to be enjoying yourself, so i didn't want to take that away from you (SMILE)"
If you feel tension when, you take a physical step: ?????????????????


I don't think this is the best routine ever, but i can at least find out why this would or wouldn't work. and get some good critique.

um, well, I dont thinking cheating the way forward, altho im very very very good at it.

I slept with more women in 1 year of being in a LTR than I had my whole life.

Having a gf usually makes things easier, girls are more open to u, lower their guard etc, but then u got a big LMR that is bound to be thrown up.

If u keep making a point of cheating like u r doing above, ur coming across as biggotted, its got to look more like u cheat because of really strong temptation, not because ur an arsehole who treats women like shit.

Just build the attraction and rapport, look for IOI's, good thing is if u Kclose with no complains the fclose guaranteed. I wouldnt bother with making a point of ur gf at all, not kool and not seductive !!