Started seeing some NLP results this weekend. Nothing ground breaking but it opened my eyes for the 1st time how this stuff really works. I’ve been going more towards natural game lately & what I have been noticing is just how much all these interactions with women are really being driven on sub level of communication & how important your state is to opening doors, & once you get into a little comfort what’s really going on. Naturals do NLP without even knowing it I think, ive done it in the past with out knowing. My experience this weekend was just something I was doing naturally & we all probably do sub communicating, but knowing a lot about NLP now this was the 1st time I was able recognize the underlying & play around with it.

I had slept over with a friend; we were being very playful in the morning. Lot of touching & laughing to which I notice had been anchored to 2 words when I said them. Every time I would say them she would immediately go right back in to laughing hysterically & touching me. Played around with it quite a bit, & you could just see her face change & even 10 minutes later I would fire the anchor & she would go back into the exact same state & look exactly the same. We didn’t do anything but it was obvious there was a lot of sub communicating that we both wanted something to happen, lots of sexual innuendo both very much in that state. Still I was not trusting of this because she has said in the past we are just friends.

We get up & go get some lunch. On the way I was going to the restaurant & was driving & waiting on some cars. She said “you could have went” I said, “ I don’t take action sometimes” to which she was like “I know!”. Now that sounds like nothing but it was how she said it, & so obvious what she meant. Honestly even though I didn’t really plan that it felt like subcontously I was asking the question naturally (do you want to fool around) & listening for the answer on that level. Needless to say we get lunch she wants to go back & take a nap & invites me to take one with her

Also very interesting I noticed the effects she had on me after. The rest of the day I consciously noticed how tranced out I had gotten & making the exact same expressions she was making, even little pouty faces & $hit to which, I had to conciously snap myself out of the "glow" is the way I describ it. Quite a turning point for me seeing this stuff. It's all about your state & pulling the women into it & leading them. BTW how I got her in the bed was disqualify, disqualify disqualify "you can't have me" to which she bought into my frame that I was the prize & was really the one chasing me.

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I recently thought over NLP, and I just reframed it to being a discovered science, rather than invented; Which is why you can see it everywhere once you realize that people do this.
It's almost creepy how much you can do just being aware of the matrix, as you called it.

Keep up the good work, dude

Man you can read about it until you are blue in the face & not really get whats going on until it just clicks & makes sense. I would suggest beginers study it so you understand when it starts happening what it is so you can tweak it, but wait to try the patterns & stuff until you have a STRONG inner self first & can get yourself into the states you want people to follow you in on que. Probably won't even need pattersns, just vib & suggest.

David Wygant is about as far off from NLP as there is, but I used one of his tricks to get myself in a sexual state. Basically assume attraction & imagaine the girl playing with herself with a toy name what ever your name is. That really got me into state not only at the bar but with that girl. Awesome stuff. Stack that with being a happy cool guy & things really starts coming together. Chicks sense it and were opening me up at the bar. That's why I say naturals just figure this right frame of mind & energy stuff out on their on, & you really have to learn it yourself.

Just this morning I had a blow up with a co-worker. I started getting pissed 1st & he quickly followed me into a pissy state. While neither were rasing our voices body language & inendo & inflection is everything because we were totally subcommunicating im pissed get out of my face even though we had a civil exterior. I tried to calm myself & change my body language to that of no big deal because the one reacting less has more power to difuse it & he followed me. While Im not in a good mood now really, I also noticed I was in a chipper/great mood this morning (obviously) & the people around me seemed to feed on that. It's stuff like you said that was always there but you just become aware of it. It will be useful to harness this, pretty exciting. The language is just a vehical, it's all really happening on a sub level controled by your state. Jefferies can say it over & over but I didn't get it until now.

Awesome stuff Dave .

I think 'seeing the matrix' is a good, (if slightly sleazy) way to put it. TD uses it in the blueprint for having general game.

I have noticed it can have downsides/side effects to it though.

A very old example comes to mind maybe 4-5 years ago when I was chilling out with my best mate and we were alone in a park in the cold and our lives were both shite at the time, but we were chilling and laughing together, we had a perfect unity. Our breathing rates, body postures, voice tonality, everything was matched. The words of our conversation just flowed like a river meandering through its fluid path.

Suddenly, I realized this.

Upon realizing, I desynchronised. No matter how much I tried to force it, I couldn't re-establish rapport with him and communication became sparse and lacked flavour.

Another instance is one of my wings, when we're walking we often try and synchronise our steps to assume rapport. As we're both 'trying', it just has the opposite effect! Kinda funny actually.

That's just a word of warning as you're getting pro now mate!!

It's awesome to be sitting on grass in the sun with all your mates, you see a girl's face angled towards a guy, you see that guy prolonging eye contact with another girl or has a different type of eye contact with her, you hear his voice tone increase pitch when he's nervous around her, you notice she moves her head forward before she laughs and you nick the anchor, you notice her wrist is exposed towards you (sexual openess), but that girls hands are always turned or closed. Another girl has her hand over her mouth often, because she wants to say something but is not. This is reinforced by the fact that she looks up and to the left suggesting she is remembering/visualizing an experience. You can see the matrix in a snapshot of reality...without any motion...or sound....and you adjust accordingly, moving through social situations like a wave in water.

Wow, I came back to this site after a brief absence, b/c I just heard about NLP/SS while reading "The Game" for the first time and I wanted to learn more.

I just want to say that this is an awesome thread, and it makes me want to learn this really bad. Rafiel Gamble, the last paragraph of your last post made me realize how basic my understanding of PUA is. Thanks.