Theres some really good advice there, i hope yall did read the bit where i said that she said she was seeing someone else.. when i think about it, that didnt neccesarily mean she wants to STOP seeing me... it may be just her comming clean. now, it has been 3 days since i last spoke to her,... should I sms later in the week and invite her out this weekend? or should i just wait until she speaks to me eventually?!?

"I'm seeing someone" is something girls can say - either as a blow off, or to make herself feel better. Have you watched Double Your Dating?

yeh i got masses of David D stuff.. i need to be following the material when it matters, i think this has been real evidence of this. what you guys reckon... holla at her this week and get a meet up? or wait til she contacts me, if that should happen. plus, if she does agree to meet up, how will i know if its under the pretext of us "being together" or not?

Hm, when to call her is too specific, you're the only person who can best decide that. I like RuleBreaker's advice to "re-woo" her, I feel like that's what needs doing here too.

Imagine what she needs to see. You wierded her out a little, and for better or worse, admitted it. I reckon if you go about re-wooing her she might appreciate the effort to "make up", if she really likes you, which it sounds like she does. And keep doing your little tricks to DHV (the fake text message to the wrong girl was good, I like that - gonna remember it, hehe) cause you need to DHV as much as you can now - basically to show that what happened was just a flash in the pan, because other girls are obviously still interested in you in spite of that, and also it sounds like you two are still in that stage together. If you know you can get other girls, then you should have plenty of material to throw in her face, as long as it's indirect of course, like the text message.

But I think if you stick to what you know works, and you try your best to put yourself in her shoes, you could come up with better advice for your specific situation than you'll get here.

Il just give her an out of the blue call, vibe for a bit... tell a silly story for about 5 minutes then finnish the convo first. not organise any meet up but just get that vibe back.. then maybe set something up later in the week. there would be alot of PUA's telling me to quit on this one,... but the way i see it.... is complete AFC's have made harder situations work..... so why not this one? so im glad that u conker are stioll reading this thread. iam gonna get other girls on the go.. but yeh, i still like this one!

I knew you'd think of something - that sounds great to me. I need to remember the "have a random convo and end it yourself trick", gets 'em every time.

latest news on operation rekindle spark

I msged her today (i figure id test the waters and DHV myself BEFORE calling)... and this is what i said

"hey --- u better have watched channel 9 news last night!"

and she replies within less then a minute

"Nope, whys that?"

and im like...

"oh nothing much, just my minute of fame! they were out asking people what they thought of Kevin rudds stimulus package (for thoes who dont know Kevin Rudd is Australias Prime Minister) and I was like, 'whos kevin Rudd?'... then i said, yeh i know who he is... i think its great, it bought me my duck beaks... then i made them zone into my shoes it was hillarious!"

(now the duckbeaks, are what my shoes look like.. so thoes at home know)

she writes back

"lol, awww i missed it!"

so, that atleast astablishes that were cool, I will further DHV in my phone call in 2 days time... then, on the weekend... the invite out,

now.. i was never on the news! but dont say anything! lol

Holy crap, you are an awesome DHV liar! I'm taking notes, lol

That's a great thing to pull out in times of great need, I like it. Just for when you really need it. Man I've never ever considered lying... hahah

BTW haven't got my stimulus package from Mr Rudd yet. But hopefully in time, you'll be giving her yours, if you know what I mean. heh heh.

Conker my man... ya boy is making a comeback!!!!!!!

something like jordan in 96..lol.

heres the rest of the convo...


i write back :

you need to be more vigilante then!
did i tell you im a working class man now? i look real sexy in this uniform lol. peace out lady player!....

then she replies "stop wasting my time by sending me msgs that arent meant for me! lol. ........

then i reply lol your mean! .....

she replies Never!.....

I reply Always! I can imagine you laughing hysterical, stirring a cauldren plotting my downfalls with you crazy pirate hooker freinds, lol!

she writes again. Never!

then she asks, "are you going to flashies tommoro?" (flashies is a club im always at, she wants to see me again!)

i havent replied yet... she can wait on!

(as for the pirate hooker freinds, thats what they dressed up as once... so it is relevant..lol)

I like to see how things follow up! Most of the threads I've posted in don't seem to say how it went afterwards.

I'm really liking your ideas for DHVing, especially the lying parts! I'd forgotten about the importance of lying. I'm glad I'm getting back into my game recently.

I used to be able to do that back and forth stuff over the phone, or text, to the point where I could say "You're blushing!" and they'd say "Augh shut up, I hate you!" or something like that, hahaha... and face to face of course - except they'd turn away or hide so I couldn't see them blushing, but then it was easier to call them out.

news is tho, she wasnt actually going to 'flashies'... she was just checkin if i was... but thats ok, its all good so far.

um..

i responded to her question like this

"maybe il know by tommoro "

then today i wrote

"yes i will be going tonigfht, i will be taking this older dude with me..... he is an ex workmate and has never been to a club before so i am going to show him how disorientating they are! cant stay til late so you will have to make the best of your time with me. lol"

____ i figure i hit the leader of men attraction switch -------

she replies "im not going loli was just wondering if you were...."

to which i replied

"Lol i need to hide your crack pipe from you i think!"

she writes back

" Yea not a stoner thank you"

i reply

"I know that georgia, lol dont start thinking i forgot how y "gets down" negro"

______________i figure in a way, thats saying.. hey dont forget me and u!-------

she writes back

"Lol, your so lame! have a good night!"

(I know that lame means good)

then i write

" I cant believe your not gonna go out tonight you would get to see me in my natural habitat while some south african tossbag eloquently breaks down my every move on some discovery channel shit. lol"

she writes back "sorry"

I write back

"its ok! Lol might see u some other time k?"

.... now i made sure to add 'MIGHT____________ just so she knows that im not completely set on it.

Hurley-

I'm interested to see how this all unfolds. I'm actually in a very similar situation right now and it helped reading your posts. One thought I had though was in regards to the texting. In general it seems as if her texts are much shorter than yours. Some of your texts are pretty witty and you're good at personalizing them but it's clear that she puts less effort into hers. Maybe you should consider sending her shorter texts that have more of "I don't really care" vibe to them. I think the whole texting the wrong girl on purpose thing is money though and I might use it myself.

One other thought is that you might want to scrap all of the talk on instant messenger because it makes you seem like you have all the time in the world to sit behind the old computer and talk away. It would be nice if she wondered why you were never on and then the next time you guys talk (on the phone or in person) you can tell her about how busy you've been...that's just a thought on DHVing. Also you might be falling into a comfort zone with the texting and aim'ing - whether you know it or not you are setting a precedent that that's the way you will talk in person. You might be subconciously removing a little mystery about yourself with the conveniency of technology.

My last piece of advice is to give her a phone call and be direct as can be. Be like "Hey my friends and I are hitting up Bar X or Club Y and thought you'd like to come...but I understand if you have to catch up on being lame." Not exactly that but you get the picture. I would then drop an anecdote - something totally random from your day or a thought that you have and get her to comment. Then say that you gotta go and to let you know by such and such time about the Bar or Club. Be direct and keep the convo brief but light - act like you could take it or leave it. You've signaled interest by calling but at the same time the call itself is brief, straightforward, and maybe even a little lacksadaisical (or however the hell you spell that word).

Anyways man those are just a few thoughts...I'm going through some similar stuff so just keep at it!

-C

I got a reply to the last message where i said 'maybe another time k?'

shes like

'yeh man'

then she says this msg

'ok fuck the gym il be there in 10. lol'

(i was thinking huh? ya know... so i write)

it will take longer then that to get here!

like 6 hours later she writes

lol I just got what you were saying lol


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I know her randomly msging about what shes up 2 is a good thing, and was something that happened alot when we were starting to get attracted to eachother. now theres some good signs, but what dop i9 do IF she is actually still seeing smeone else? i mean... [people can see more then one person at a time while dating. Also, i hope this isnt all in the 'freindship' frame... I hope that she is seeing me as a potential suiter and not a funny interesting freind. she is aware of my interest in attraction ( i even explained some of the workings of it to her) and i think she knows i meet alot of girls,..... but part of me wants to say ' you know i meet alot of girls, but each girl i meet makes me realise how much of a special snowflake you really are... ' but that would be cheesy, afc, hollywood shit right? how do i make sure, that when i meet up with her, .... that i can move this shit smoothly forward? i dont wanna kino with her,... right up to the kiss then have her say 'but im seeing someone dont u remember?'......

thats assuming that her saying 'im seeing someone' isnt a shit test of some sort.

also, when i sent the msg saying 'i look real sexy in this work uniform yada yada'

and she replied 'stop wasting my time making me open msgs that arent for me! lol'

because the msg, that one anyways... was obviously for her.... is that her way of saying to me..... i dont want to be jealous anymore... dont play that game... tell me how you feel?

Dude I had almost the same EXACT shit happen. It sucks but then you realize your mistake and thats why it's good to be a pua, right.