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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:01 pm 
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Ive been hearing about this lately. But I'm not really sure what to do or how to do it can someone explain this to me?


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Basically how I understand it.

NLP comes down to

The emphesis on certain words and body movements to subconciously tell a person one thing while you are talking about something completely different.

I think.

Like whenever you say the word "Satisfying" (In Normal conversation) and you naturally point toward your lap. The body language is suttle enough but women are very very perceptive and won't even notice that they are INdeed noticing.


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Yeah, I generally view NLP as being a sort of snake in the grass but it's interesting.
Use it if you will, just make sure you can put up with your conscience.


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Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is a field of study and a set of practices concerned with positively modifying behavior, particularly through psycho-linguistic techniques. Its theoretical foundation draws on a range of disciplines, including various psychological fields, linguistics, cognitive science and occupational therapy. Invented by Richard Bandler and John Grinder in the 1970s as a method of personal development, NLP has since been elaborated and reconceived in divergent forms by its practitioners and adherents, making it a diffuse field resistant to a single comprehensive definition.

NLP is based on the idea that human senses are limited in scope, hence a person perceives only a small part of the world via those senses. Thus, proponents state that a person's view of the world is filtered by biology, experience, beliefs, values and assumptions. These filters form a person's logical construct of the world, referred to by NLP adherants as a "map". NLP advocates hold that the human mind-body (neuro) complex and what people say (linguistic), interact together to form perceptions of the world, or maps (programming).

A core tenet is Alfred Korzybski's idiom, the map is not the territory: in other words people act and feel based on their perception or maps of the world rather than the actual world. Practitioners of NLP believe that most people's maps are an impoverished, distorted representation of the actual world. This then leads people to create what are considered to be unhelpful or destructive patterns of thinking. By exploring and challenging parts of their map, the practitioner seeks to modify, replace or reframe these thought patterns in order to improve the clients internal experience and achieve more effective and flexible behavior.

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Take the NLP Door routeen for example, it is a technique for completely controlling a person by planting an extremely negative anchor (death, and separation from your loved one) and associating it with a door slamming right after sex, when a woman is most vulnerable.

So, the girl is conditioned to have more sex with you to avoid the door slamming after sex. This technique is pure evil and would personally never do it, but it is the best example I could think of.

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That's not exactly how the door works...but it'll do. Basically, if done right the door can be used for much more than sex, it can be used to control everything.
I'm with Sl3ven. Forget it exists. It's evil and wrong and f*cked up.


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I absolutely agree, the only reason I cited that was to show how powerful, if used properly (or improperly take your pick lol), NLP can be.

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hehe, just received a copy of "Introducing NLP" yesterday and the authors say something like this:

"NLP is the art and science of personal excellence [...] Science because there is a method and process for discovering the patterns used by outstanding individuals in any field to achieve outstanding results. This process is called modelling, and the patterns, skills and techniques so discovered are being used increasingly in counselling, education and business for more effective communication, personal development and accelerated learning."

So, as Sl3ven says, it's (supposed to be) powerful. IMO, it's not NLP that is bad in itself but bad is the use you can make from it. I actually don't know much about NLP either (that's why a bought the book :D).


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i dont understand how is it bad?


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i dont understand how is it bad?
It's like "tricking" a girl into sex.
Basically...


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You gotta use whatever you can. Women are constantly "tricking" men into spending money on them and such.

Dont look at it as tricking them into sleeping with you. Instead, you are "teaching" them that sex with you is desireable. Its not like your confusing them into something they dont want. Instead your allowing their subconscious make the decision they relally want.


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women manipulate men conciosly and subconciously, whats wrong with mild manipulation to attract women :twisted:

Ive used it with success


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It's a very powerful tool if you learn how to use it.

But I would limit the amount of it I would use on women.

Use it for other things, learn how to talk your way into and out of anything (goodbye speeding tickets?).


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So how do you learn it? Seems like an interesting subject.


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Yes, it does work for men and women and you can use it to get out of tickets (Kind-of... remember the position your in and that the officer is actively watching your hands and arms at all times and so it will make it more difficult because they are in his/her concious mind rather than letting his/her unconcious take care of it.)

It is a very simple premise and you can do basics of it very easily with a small amount of practice BUT getting really good at it is EXtremely difficult because of the miniscule nuances of the human brain.

Look, I knew a guy who had a woman trained to get so randy that she would literally start squirming in her seat (via him speaking one word) and that is a minor use of repetitive NLP. Course they had talked about it months before and agreed to let him do it. He then carried on without her knowledge. It was actually really awesome (and being honest kinda unny.) He said he was working on getting her to orgasm with a word but he had never gotten that quite right.

As to how to learn do it... well there are a ton of different ways. I could tell you some basic ways but that is just cognitive conditioning and it isn't true NLP. Mine is just more like pavlov's Salivate to a Bell type stuff. I would suggest looking in your local library and if you can't find it there you should go out and find the books. I don't know which one is the best but maybe someone else does.

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P.S. As to whether it is right to use on a woman or not... I have seen alot of things done to a woman and I am constantly suprised as to what they actually like and don't like. If you discuss it with her before hand then I would see no problem with it at all, period. Even if it is just part of a routine. Most women tend to be happy to be a "Guinea pig" for pretty much anything as long as you tie it to Psychology or Sociology. You could even partially explain it to her as follows:

"Yea, I am doing a Psycology study actually. You see, I read this paragraph to someone and then I ask them how the paragraph made them feel and what their thoughts and reactions were to it. Then I discuss at the end how the total process went. Do you mind if I read it to you?"

This is once you get into the comfort building stage OR actually near the DHV or Even as an opener I suppose. IF she agrees you can then go about NLPing to your hearts content. She knows that you are doing something to see how it works. In general at this point I would suggest trying out the Roller Coaster NLP and then talk to her about how it made her feel (You write down how SHE says it makes her feel AND how YOU think it made her feel) You then connect these awesome feelings that she is having to you and then you anchor it to an object, a place on her body, or a movement that You do. Tada. You have done nothing more than you have told her you would do.


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well put!
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You gotta use whatever you can. Women are constantly "tricking" men into spending money on them and such.

Dont look at it as tricking them into sleeping with you. Instead, you are "teaching" them that sex with you is desireable. Its not like your confusing them into something they dont want. Instead your allowing their subconscious make the decision they relally want.


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