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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:16 pm 
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HI everyone. Let me start by introducing myself. U can call me white. Basically i from a country name Malaysia. However, most of the P.U.A guide are more effective to non Asian women because of the culture and lifestyle. So, i was wondering if the theories can be applied to Asian women who are more conservative. Let me explain this, in Asia(maybe around my country only) people seldom say hi to one another on the street and even trying an opener would be quite a difficult task. They will ignore you mostly and is kinda weird if u go up to someone and make a small talk by discussing about the weather and most of the time they will look at me like I'm crazy or something like that. So i was wondering is there a suitable openers that Asian can use?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:32 pm 
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Sorry, I don't have a great answer right off the bat. It sounds like daytime pick ups would be much harder, but what about bars/clubs? Do people mingle and interact similar to western countries in these situations? There must be SOME place where people meet and mingle.

Also, a big part of PU is being different from the rest, so maybe the fact that people don't approach women in public very often can work to your benefit. Unless it is so taboo that it would immediately make them uncomfortable with you...

Tough one.


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Hey white whats going on man? The college I'm going to next year as a majority Asian population. When I went there on visits, I also noticed they were a little... They reacted different to my openers.

My approach plan was to go up to a group of them. I go up to the guy, and ask if he knew what the time the Bulls playoff game was tonight. He told me, but the guy wasn't conversing so much, so I asked the group of girls how they all knew eachother. They kind of opened up to this, and this opened up to several techniques I use mid game (ESP, advice, ect). I was able to get all there numbers.

You have to play it off on how the situation develops and what not. I hope that helps man.

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Move.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:07 am 
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Hey white,

As an asian-male who grew up in america I can give you some of my opinions on this topic. But I can't tell you what will work because even I'm not familiar or experienced with social interactions in foreign countries.

I have many friends who are Asian females, but only a handful of them were born and raised in a different country. These girls don't speak english very well, nor are they accustomed to Western culture as well. But whenever I practice on them I still get positive feedback which leads me to believe that the basic concept of attraction is universal. I just have to change up what I say to them.

Several times in my life I had traveled to a far east country and I did notice that people are a bit more conservative. My only suggestion is to make your approaches and routines a little more "conservative" too. I don't know how to explain it too well, but if you approach someone over there with something along the lines of "which type of mix is better" in a grocery market that could work. It's a very gentle opener to my opinion...there is no pressure or percieved threat they could get. Whereas if you use a western-geared opener like "does this shirt make me look gay?" it wouldn't settle very well to someone who is conservative. (at least that's what I think)

Hope this works for you!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:54 am 
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^ i agree to his post, i'm also an asian, i kinda notice that part when dealing with people


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:45 pm 
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^ i agree to his post, i'm also an asian, i kinda notice that part when dealing with people
asian people from another country are somewhat hard to game. I realized. There's this Japanese chick in my class and although she's extremely attractive, it's hard to bond with her. American humor definitely confuses her as I find her saying "repeat that again?"

It's a little challenging to find something to connect on for sure. Just keep trying and remember not to make any excuses to "not" pick up.

I get approach anxiety for sure but when I realize that my overall happiness has increased by meeting new people and being social, it's quite a breakthrough.

Think of it in a semi- consequentialism perspective.

Consequentialism is the idea that you should do things that gives the best outcome.

By approaching and constantly trying, you may fail and get blown out, but it's not about the blow outs. It's about meeting new and interesting people. Just keep trying buddy. It's the effort that counts.


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Im from a country in Asia too but I live in Malaysia... From the beginning I started approaching Malaysian girls with these materials and what i can say is that im agree with Erison...
1. don't ever approach any girls directly in Malaysia..
2. opinion openers would work the best if it's something about buying a present for someone, what colour of t-shirt would look good on you and these kind of things...
3. in malaysia if u try to approach girls on the street they most likely reject you but if u approach them in a shopping mall, shop or somewhere like this they will open up to u...

Hope that helped


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Hello. in my experience, i find it easier to talk to asian women, particularly bc 9/10 have very good manners. when i open, most are receptive. its just the matter of approach like many have already said. open well, non threatening etc, and they will respond. it does not matter if they are from the far east or far west. i hear what ur saying that 'u really cant approach on the streets', then try a more social place like a bar, club, etc. im also asian, ive lived in asia and here in the US. I went to a college where 60% of our study body are composed of asian exchange students, and where for 1 male, there are 3 females.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:59 am 
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Must asians judge before knowing
so basically its all the same
but more in a customs way of their natioanlity


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I too am from Malaysia and I've noticed that approaching from the right direction and body language are key factors.
Approach them preferably from the side or front. Their bi*ch shields tend to be harder to bring down if you approach from the back. Positive body language also works alot too. Smiling and confident posture work too.
Most of the time negs don't really have the desired effects too so choose wisely.
I find k-closing to be really tough though.
Hit me back with any advice..much appreciated. :wink:


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