Is there something else I can say? 'Cause I think she was having fun because a lot guys we're giving her attention [girls love attention] and I wasn't. I stayed away from her because my friend told me to not do anything with her. But now I do, because this friend wants every girl he sees and the fact that she was kind of looking for or wondering where I was the whole night? l was thinking of messaging her explaining why I wasn't around [because my friend..] or tell her "I danced [or had fun] with you but I think you were too drunk to remember." Something like that. What do you think? Thanks again!

Did you get a chance to look at my profile? Hopefully its not private, I don't remember the settings I used.

That could work out pretty well actually. Give it a shot.

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Kbell,

Shoot me a link, and I'll be happy to.

Jon

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myspace.com/mayaman but check your private messages too. I posted it there as well. Right now my profile theme is obnoxiousness, so it isn't really appealling.

Kbell,

Good profile. I definitely suggest changing your theme. Your hobbies and personal interests are black and can not be read on the black background. I highlighted them to read them and like what I saw.

You definitely need to work on your about me section since there isn't anything in there. Describe yourself and your personality the best way you can in about a paragraph. Also, make sure to ADD PHOTOS!!!!!!

Jon

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Ya J u got what I mean, can u give me what would be the simplest mssg to send then ? cuz i really dont want to mess this up more than it already is..
I wanna keep it cool and just being nice as a friend

thx J

Alright, why not just simply message her and only say something like, "Happy Birthday. Enjoy your special day, you waited all year for it."

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Hey Smooth,

I've been reading your posts and theres some great info in here so I appreciate all the help you've given, but I need help in a girl im trying to pull from pof.

I did the Marriage opener and she just sent me a reply, pretty much meaning I need to run more attraction game.

So it goes all the way up to this part

ME :You know this doesn't have to get bitter. Remember our pillow fights right before the awesome dinners I would make you?


HB : Fine, fine. I guess I will just have to buy myself a new car after I sell my wedding ring.

I knew there was a reason I never liked Isabella, always had that look in her eyes when she saw you. Finding this out just explains it all.

I loved our pillow fights, and the awesome dinners.... I miss that....


Me : Geez, we seem to get a long so well now that all that's over. Ever consider giving it another shot? I mean we were pretty good together.



HB : i dont know... me and the pool boy kinda have a thing going still...but maybe



I was thinking replying with the next step but adding a bit more, but I'm afraid it's not enough :

Wow you remind me of my sister hah.

Your losing me but thanks for the honesty. I wont be so quick to judge this time.

Any suggestion for a better reply? Sorry I know you don't like making replies but I'm able to change it to fit my personality. Thanks for your time!

Rustinpeace89,

I think at this point the opener has played out well but you need to move away from this topic, and on to something else. If she wasn't interested she wouldn't be responding back, which you know.

You certainly have some more attraction to build, as well as you need to gain some comfort with her as well. I would probably respond with something like,

"You can have your fling with the poolboy. Anyways, being serious for a moment you seem pretty cool, but how do I know your not some crazed internet stalker?

I suppose I'll have to take my chances. Tell me what are you passionate about in life? For me it's xxxxxxx that I have been doing for a while now."

The reason for this is you are transitioning out of the opener. The Internet stalker line I like using because it establishes comfort and trust. Women do worry about being lured in by these crazy people online. We are handling the objection before it occurs by flipping the script on her. It is also just playful.

Finally, we go into building some comfort by asking her what she is passionate about in life to build a real conneciton with her, which we will need to escalate comfort levels.

hope this helps,

Jon

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So I have sent out some interesting emails to a few girls. Some are read and others are not.

Question...If you know they have not read them, do you write them back eventually. I see a profile that is active within 24 hours but has not read my email either by choice or because it got buried amongst many other emails. Do you guys write back, and if so do you copy/paste your previous unread email, and how long do you wait?

Thanks all, and especially JSmooth.

Hooligan,

You are welcome. I would wait about a week for online and then email them again. A week is a pretty good time period to message someone. I don't know that I'd copy my previous message but I would follow up after a week. That should give you a pretty good time period to work from and stay proactive.

Jon

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What type of photos and what are you trying to show with the photos?

Kbell,

Wow, great question. There is a lot too this actually so I will try and be as specific as I can with all of it. This might get to be a long answer but you'll have it down when we are done.

First of all, the most important thing by far with any part of your online profile is "congruence" with your personality. When a woman sees you being incongruent she thinks this profile is not really you and will get away quickly. My point with this is when I saw I'm going in my online profiles, I have pictures of me out in bars, clubs, doing stuff. I don't have pictures of me standing in my house alone.

The other thing with pictures is you definitely want to show you being active. Okay, one maybe two photos of you at home or something lilke that is fine. Still you want photos of doing whatever it is that you do on a regular basis. If you run have pictures of you running. If you play basketball then get a picture of you doing that. I think you get my point on this aspect.

Moving right along. Another huge thing I encourage people to demonstrate with their pictures is healthy relationships. If you have all your pictures on this profile. In some cases you might have 10 pictures or more. You want pictures of yourself with both your guy friends and women. Of course the pictures with women demonstrate pre-selection right. Well the pictures of men can help show "Leader of Men" qualities. But more importantly that leader of men, the pictures of you with guys show her that you do have friends and people like being around you.

One of the things I personally am concious of in the photo is what I am wearing. When I posted my latest successful ad on Craigslist. I had two back to back Lays and then 6 dates with that. Not bad... Anyways, in the ad I hate different styles. In one picture it was just me in a graphic t-shirt. Then another with a slightly more casual look. Then one with a dressy or snappy casual tone where I was wearing a sport coat and jeans. I like to show that I can be relaxed or dressed up a bit. Women take this into consideration. If the girl looking at this likes to go to nice places she can see me going there. IF she likes being more laid back she can see that too.

Other tips to keep in mind with photos:

-Be concious of what is going on in the background of a photo. Friends making dumb faces or even showing a messy house or something. A lot of people forget this rule.

-Also never have a picture on a profile that is over a year old. I prefer telling guys no longer than 6 months actually. If you don't have recent photos go out, do the photo opener, and get some pics. Have a friend go with you to take a few snapshots. In a few weeks you'll have a lot to choose from.

-No pictures with your shirt off or nude ever. The thing with this is some guys have nice bodies with the 6 pack abs and that's cool. Believe me most women know by looking at you if you have a nice body. Leave something to the imagination. For each women that likes that type of photo there are two others that don't. Remember looks aren't the biggest factor in attraction by a long shot.

-Make sure you are smiling and having fun in your pictures. You don't want pictures of you with a scowl on your face at all.

-Remember to edit the photo's when you can. With most computers you have a program on there to edit the red eye, crop out other people, and that sort of thing. It really does make a difference when you do this. A little bit of effort goes a long way.

-Post as many photos as you can. On dating sites post as many as it will allow you too. The profiles with more photos do so much better than those that don't. With using networking sites like Facebook and MySpace just post as you can.

-Remember to go back and update your online profiles and networking sites at least once a month if possible with a new photo or two that you can collected.

I think this should give you a great idea about how to use your photos to your advantage. They say pictures say 1,000 words. If you know what you are doing you can control which 1,000 words it says.

Jon

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Very nice response! That will take some time to accomplish, but sounds doable. Not sure what the photo opener is. And should I think of purchasing a tiny digital camera? I have a big 2 pound DSLR camera which probably is imitidating. But I like the controls it gives, which probably aren't relevant for most PUA photo work. I have photoshop, so I could alter images A LOT! But it might not be good idea to make everybody into fish/humans , or aliens.