how would you guys open this chick!!!
i tried messaging, IMming but no results, i know some of you will probably think that i should move on but im not a quitter.
check her profile out.

[url]http://www.okcupid.com/profile/JuicyFruitCutie

Dude that's the spirit! Keep going. First off, I'm not familiar with that service. Do you know wether she has actually read what you wrote. On POF we know. If she didn't even read it, that mean the message title was too lame.

She considers herself the ultimate being. In her mind, she is a ten and a genius at the same time. So you're gonna have to find a way to bring her down to earth and build yourself up.

One thing to neg her on, I noticed in one of her "glam" shots, she's wearing this red and white scarf around her stomach. It's sort of weird, it looks like something left over from Christmas. Did she steal that from some be-sotted socker fan?

On the brain connection side look at her books. She's a book worm. I noticed she likes Catcher in the Rye. Totally depressing book. A great book, but depressing all the same. What's up with that? She obviously is a real positive person. Is she making that up? Was she an ugly repressed kid?

Just some ideas....

Efingjay - I hope you did not send her a message and IM her back to back. If you did then you need to slow down and not be so desperate. Secondly seeing that she is physically attractive and that it says she responds selectively to messages should give you a hint that she gets a ton of messages per day and has her pick to what messages she responds to.

As far as opening this girl goes, what do you think you should open with let alone how?

OKCupid does not let you know if the person has read your message or not. But either way I doubt that the girl didn't respond because the message title was lame. A lot of girls check out your profile BEFORE they read your message.
I don't think she considers her self the ultimate being but does know she is attractive. As far as being a genius I didn't see that present.
Negging this girl will do more harm than good. The girl knows she is physically attractive. And by him messaging the girl she knows he finds her attractive. So there is really no point in even commenting on her looks. It can even backfire even.

no way dude i dont harass her...i messaged her one day and immed her the next.
When i did message her i noticed that she had Britney spears as her fav Artist/music so i said:
I cant believe Britney spears still has a fan!!!!
Were you the one on youtube yelling and crying about leaving Britney alone (i know its Chris Croker but i wanted to neg a little)
Are you a loyal person?

Thats not too bad of a message to not get replied is it? or what did i miss?

Ya you didn't really harass her, but you did come off as a bit desperate to get her tho. Give her time to respond to your message. As I mentioned she gets a ton of messages and does not reply back to all of them. The best way to go about this is if she is not online send her a message. If you don't get a reply back in a couple of days consider her not interested. Wait like 6 or so months and try again. But don't IM her the day after you send her a message. She may have read it and deleted it for all we know.

The thing is using negs online tend to not work out that well. If anything they can and will backfire on you. Especially when the person does not know you. But never ever use negs in your opener when it comes to online game. Your way better off sending a message that shows you actually read her profile.

OK Jarupa,,, fine. Let's make this shit happen. Here's a classic case. Let's call her a 10 and Efinjay ain't walking away. SO how do we make it work? Waiting six months isn't going to work cause that's for chumps.

So what is the PUA way for Efinjay to make this shit happen now? He didn't harrass her and he can message her again. So what's the angle going to be? They say that online sarging is a game of numbers, so move on with the mass mailing campaign. Sure, that's great. But how about an even more fun game. Naming one chick and making that happen?

I can see from what Efinjay wrote that he is a clued in guy. So we got that going for us. I know there is something in her profile that he can pick up on that the other guys missed that she will respond to. And I know that some slight neg will be required to just to tone things down from a "letter of worship" and to establish some value for himself.

I want to see it. Efinjay go for it.

If I was going to open this girl I would go very direct with a very much "I don't give a shit about you" type message. As there are a ton of hot girls out there, why should I put my eggs in all one basket? But Efingjay may want to do such a thing let alone be comfortable with it. Simply put there are lots of ways to go about this.
Wrong. The reason I said to wait that long is for her to forget about Efingjay and to make it so that he does not come off as desperate or two aggressive as both are not attractive to girls.
See above. Tho I should mention I do not follow all of the PUA stuff.
As I said he did not really harrass her. And yes he can message her again. But if he does to soon he will either come off as desperate (more than likely the case) and/or to aggressive. Both are turn offs for girls.
The angle really depends on his style and how he goes about his game. As I mention there are lots of ways to go about this. Trying to get one single girl, especially online is no easy task. And quite frankly I kinda see it as having one-itits.
When I scan her profile I pick up that she is cheerleader like girl that does the whole like speech thing. Which by default means she is a bit ditsy. Tho showed that she has some brains/smarts in her as she is attending college for what I am assuming to become a nurse. She has read some books, but what girl hasn't. Going by her photos and personality I would gather she also does some parting and more than likely likes getting attention from the guys. I think it is safe to say there are a few things we can use here. And if I spend a bit more time than I did on the profile I am sure I can find out more.

As far as using a neg on this girl. Don't, it will only backfire. The girl already knows Efingjay finds her attractive by the simple fact that he has tried to contact her. He needs to blow off her looks, by not even talking about them or even referencing them. As I bet you almost every other guy that has send her a message has made some comment about her looks and it has only filled her ego.

Ure right on the money bro....On the website theres this YOU SHOULD MESSAGE ME IF section and this what she put:

You want someone to talk to but you're not a complete idiot or rude. And guys seriously, behave I'm already sick of most of you who messaged me even before I finished putting up information about myself. Pictures aren't everything boys.


.Negs are definitely out the window
.Complimenting her looks/body are also out
.I think my next message should start with: HAVE YOU EVER FELT.........or i know your inbox is full of jerks probably treating you like a prize and not a human being but....
or why she decided to come online and joke on her for not having many friends.
I need to give her a reason to talk to me.

As you guys already know i dont want just a message, i want something that stands out and carries a powerful emotional punch that cannot be left unanswered.I know many of you guys have ideas for sure, can i get a few examples from you and probably make a crazy compilation cause right now im regrouping before i attack again.


As far as my style goes heres how ive been getting most success (in real life online is new for me):

ill open her with a soft neg or opinion.
then find a similarity between us to high five her on then we thumb wrestle (while our hands are interlocked and slowly coming down)
then i use a story to joke and DHV
Then i ask for 3 things that makes her awesome and by then im already close to getting the number only thing is im pretty scared to kiss close.

Joking is a big part of my game...i don't do well with prudes.

Dude go for it. Sounds like a fun game. You can do it.

I will just part company with jarupa on one particular point. If you really want to do this, figure out a way to do this. He's right, don't come across as scary and keep pumping her. But on the other hand, don't wait too long.

I'd say consider if you want to get right the fuck back into the game, maybe change your pictures. I'd bet she gets 100 messages a day and the only thing she might remotely remember about you are your old pictures.

Or if you really wanted to go tactical. DUmp your old profile and come in as a new guy with a new name and pictures. That way it's all brand new.

ANyways,,, whatever you decide, have fun with it. That chick is realy hot!

You may be surprise at what details girls pick up and remember.

That will come of as AFC.
I be careful with joking about the friend thing as she most probably has a nice amount of friends. And is on OKCupid due to the guys that approach her in real life and more than likely finding guys are pretty much the same or worse online.
I think a better mindset is you need a way to get her to reply and not talk to you. Because if you can get her to reply you can start a conversation with her then.

Efingjay as far as your style goes in the real world I would almost flip it for online game. As it may work better for you online. If you ask this girl in a joking way in what makes her unique I bet she will more than likely qualify her self to you. Because I bet most guys put her on a pedestal and praise her in some fashion. And she is more than likely expect it from every message she reads from guys. But it is important to work on comfort and attraction right off the bat as well.