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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:58 pm 
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I've been in the game for about 4 months now. It's become quite easy for me to open..95% i'm able to open and hook.
But after about 2 minutes i can't seem to generate enough attraction and the conversation becomes stale.

1) physical attraction is there, because when i open i'm usually welcomes with big smiles and hellos and "introductions"
2) however, after about a minute they start checking their phones etc. How can overcome this hurtle. what are some of the things you've had to change in order to get better at mid game?.

please give me some pointers.

How can i attract those women who are NOT initially attracted to me?

ex.

I open with " hey guys, you seem cool"..blah blah
HBs: " yes, we're cool...and introduce themselves"
Then i usually go into " you have a cool group here..how do you know each other"
HBs: "oh it's my friends birth day..she's 22"
Me: oh great, i'm gonna give you a hug
HBs: gives a hug
Then i do something situational like " I love this place, my first time here blah blah.."

Hb: "I have a boyfriend"
Me: "that's cool, maybe i'll meet him sometimes"
and then conversation usually goes nowhere because they become busy with their phones..

WFT?

can you guys please give me some pointers...what am i missing?..what is the most important part of mid game

I mean, i smile, i do lots of kino, i talk, but i just can't seem to suck them into getting being interested.

please give me some feedback
what are some products/articles i can read to get this area handled.

I mean, it's pretty easy for me to get numbers IF they're into me...but i'm having trouble if they ARENT.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:02 pm 
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Truth is that you are never done hooking. You say that you open and hook and then get problems with them losing interest. I know the feeling.
You need to be able to calibrate during your talk. You need to know what they find interesting (or just go with the normal chick crack).

If you use stories (canned) you never run out of things to say. A good story leaves them wondering about what the next thing will be, be dynamic. You start by introducing the story with something amazing, something that sells the story. "There is only one way to know if a girl is good or bad, the Evil Fluffy Bunny?" That leaves them thinking "what the hell is that". Then you build up the interest with a few facts that really are not important but the details give the story life. "at the time I was hitchhiking across Khazakstan wearing Pink girls underwear since I lost my own, a Big truck stopped and this Biker type of guy reading the Guns and Ammo magazine popped his head out..."

And leave enough threads open to multiple thread...


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You also need to increase there Buying Temp. I'm guessing you keep on talking and then they get bored and....... OH hey I got a text....... NO! do a BT spike and their emotional brain will become more dominant.

You can do a BT spike by bantering, and then do a compliance test after the BT spike to make them invest in you. The BT spike will aid in their compliance, and by complying they will backwords rationalize that they like you. too easy.

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The initial hook is for general interest, they just want to make sure you want them there, chances are if they're losing interest in minutes they probably weren't from the start. Stop asking so many questions, it will freak them out, I mean yea they like talking about themselves but they need to know they have someone they can talk to. Ask how they met, listen to boring short story and explode with a funny story of how you and a friend met. Use a camera as often as you can and get pictures and use them later in a routine, I've been seeing that all the time since I've heard and seems like it never fails. Ask a quick question about her friend and now you opened up she'll talk longer. Meanwhile think of a quick neg and crack a smile. Two steps forward one back. Give yourself a time constraint and tell her how long you have. She'll feel a little bit protected knowing you're leaving soon so she can think about what just happened. Set up to hang out a place you can relate to and tell stories from, relate to her and constantly think of negs.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 9:08 pm 
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Then i do something situational like " I love this place, my first time here blah blah.."
That really sort of sounds AFC. I love this place. This is a nice bar. I live right around the corner etc etc etc.

Maybe you're getting your steps a little muddled. Seems to me that if you a breaking sets with HBs and getting smiles.... you are past the attraction phase. They are attracted to you.

Now you should be developing raport, showing value and building comfort. Forget attraction. It's there. Now is the time to get the next of items done.

Once you've shown value, built some report and made them comfortable, then you build seduction always looking for those IOI's.

In your case, maybe your're doing it, but tell them you can't stay for long and only have a couple extra minutes and sit down. That builds comfort. At this point you want to sell them to the point that they don't want you to leave. that's the hook. Now you're ready for the final phase of seducing one of them and hopefully "pulling " her from the group.

Look, it's just a generatlity, take it for what it's worth, but the basic path is
1. Attraction
2. comfort/raport
3. build value
4. Hook
5. seduction.

ANyways DUde, you are right where you want to be. Keep it up, you're gonna nail it.


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