Hey everyone,

I'm trying to make the move into natural game. At the moment, I generally use recycled opinion openers, then go more or less natural after that, unless it starts to slip, then I use a dhv or something.

A situational opener is the ideal for a natural approach, whether its before or after the "hi". But what if theres nothing in the envirnment that imidiately gives you an idea, does anyone have a good way to transition from the "hi"/ "hey, hows it going?"/ "Whats up? You guys having fun?"etc. ?

ah finally some1 who into my style lol, im all natural and situational.

heres effectively the best single opener u cud hope for if it bites, natural hit n miss but generally if u use the Gunwitch method and walk up to the target already imagining sex the whole time ur with them.

Walk over,

"hey thought id make the move to say hi as you looked bit anxious, my names Zikki Illogical. I understand how nerve racking it can be approaching good looking guys like myself, but really its all mind over matter, I dont mind, so it doesnt matter....drink?"



"(hey thought id make the move to say hi as you looked bit anxious)

- this negs her a lil, shows ur C+F and also builds on assumed rapport that she was indeed checking you out,

(my names Zikki Illogical.)

- I always open with my full name as its easier to be remembered, another pro move.

(I understand how nerve racking it can be approaching good looking guys like myself)

- To understand assumes you are familar with a person, assumed rapport again. Stating you know it can eb nerve racking brings you to the same sort of level because you associate an old way you used to feel with how you are stating she feels now. Good looking guy, basic bit of DHV and C+F just to get her thinking if indeed you are a good looking guy.

(but really its all mind over matter, I dont mind, so it doesnt matter....drink?")

- heres the close, use a common quote "mind over matter" saying how brainpower is stronger than any physical force. Then play on words saying how you dont mind her talking to you (framing her slightly here) and saying as your such a kool guy you can handle the situation. Then just go for an isolation with drink close and step it up.


There are faults and improvements but essentially thats how to open and isolate in one sentence....

zikki's completely i love situational openers only if they arent recycled club ones. just show ur confidence with something similar and the natural game comes out. i guess the sex image might work for somepeople, ive never tried it lol!, but what i do when approaching is i simply am thinking god dam im doing her a fucking favor... works everytime for my demeanor, makes you seem confident and like ur not dependent on her accepting you

good luck man

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My game is a little bit different from Zikki.
I have certain rules i would never do

Like, I never give up my name until she asks, cause it gives a I0I too me.

Try too make a opener in that situation.
But when i see a 9 or 10 then i get nervous and use a canned.

I won't give you a opener.
I personally don't believe in canned opener's but it helps too have a couple in your belt.

Listen too Zikki.
There is many different game's out there but we are all playing the same one.

I don't mean to be rude to either of the above posters, but i don't really see how surgical openers or the lack of willingness to give your name because its too much of an IOI have to do with natural. This is all, in my humble opinoin, too methodical to be what, at least I, consider natural game.

What do you say after hello? Well, what do you say to your buddy after you say hello on the phone? It doesn't have to be super clever or even situational. It sure as hell does not have to be a neg. It has to flow, naturally, from who you are. When the girl sees that there is no fasad and that you are open, confident, and maybe a bit unapologetic with your intent, she'll appreciate it. You've now seperated yourself from 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of every other guy on the planet who approaches indirect or does so direct but chodey.

Hello there! Ur cute!

Or something like that basically worked for me all of last week. Sometimes I say "hello there" with a British accent because i"m a goof. (Usually the girl, realizing its fake, responds with "Good day to u sir" in a british accent or something like that as well). Sometimes I'll just run up and grab the girl (the shock in her eyes is always amazing) and say something like "I love you! Your the only girl whose dancing!" You notice the lack of clever bullshit or negs? But theres something more to this.

You will NATURALLY come up with what to say. You will come up with the most clever, sexually charged and sex worthy commentary if you just naturally allow yourself to do so. The truth is, practically all of us after so many years of watching tv/chatting/etc. have the ability to do all of this. Its merely a matter of allowing it to flow from who you are.

Remember, if your using a pick up line, it means you do not think highly of yourself enough that your "hello" works. This is not to say I won't use situational or functional - those are always great too - but I'm perfectly happy with a "Hi!" as well. Where it goes from there will be OBVIOUS once you have that belief in yourself.

exactly what i use
"hi, you're a cutie "

works 99% of the time for me. even if i dont get a number, the girl will still be blushing and thinking about me all week lol

I don't believe in cocky/funny.

That being said, the ideal way to approach during the day is. You are thinking that, might as well grow some balls and admit it to her.

"I just saw you standing over here, and I knew that if I didn't come over to talk to you I would kick myself for the rest of the day.

My name is [insert name]. What are you up to on this fine day?"

Or (slight variation

"I know this is going to sounds extremely cheesy, but bare with me. I just had to come over here and tell you that You look absolutely stunning.

Hi, my name is [insert name]. What are you up to?"

Not being one for clubs or crowded bars I can only speak from experience on campus. Imagine she is a friend of yours, if you met a friend out of the blue what would you talk about? Chances are it'd be something that you care about and passion is infectious.

As an artist art is what I love talking about. last week I opened a girl by showing her a paintbrush I'd just bought because i was psyched about it and wanted to share the enthusiasm with someone. Incidentally the brush is about 35cm long and weighs a solid kg, amazing thing and a joy to work with.

Assume rapport, remember that people are friendly unless given a reason not to be and that they will mirror your energy.

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"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde

Why does everyone use high end game for basic shit?

LMAO and it must be something in the UK only because
Scripted material /=/ Natural Game

If you come out over here doing some smoke and mirrors tricks youd either have to be 110% ontop of your game to keep it up and be ready to face the firing squad when every girl in the room is testing you to see if your an act or for real

i agree with the last two posts.

me personally i love conversations or implied meanings where i dont directly say what i mean its obviously implied and im not apologetic for it. for me these convos are fun. and ive found in most cases if i find the convo was fun, then the girl will too.

basically ive found that if i let the convo flow at its own pace and direction itll usually turn out well. dont push for numbers, let it flow and itll happen. just recognise the time to act etc.

the bottom line for is TO BE FUN AND MEMORABLE. that works for me most times and if it doesnt i jsut think shes up herself.

cheers
red

True enough if you are acting in the UK, people will be onto you so fast. I always thought that stuff works in the US because more people there are disingenuous.


Peace

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