I have a situation here, after ur peacocking and u see a girl chickin u out and u do the approach techinuqe, she doesnt turn away and u get an opinion opener going ur on a role right?

Well i was thinking would it be advisable in order to get her number, after the short convo to say she looks a bit pale and offer to buy her a drink and sit down, then u say oh my friend is not sure whether he should do this or that, u got any suggestions, then say quickly, shite i gotta catch my bus, have u got a number i can call u on n talk about it, or something along those lines?

Just say we are in the mall as an environment!

Thanks

Hmmm SOMETIMES... like my buddy JSmooth always says... its AMAZING what people will put up with and tolerate...
just because you have a girl listing to your opinion opener doesnt nessisarily mean much... this is where calibration comes into play... watch for IOI's...get some compliance testing going...
that will be a better test of where you are at with this girl... i.e. if you lean back does she lean in?.... is she making eye contact or just looking around...
Eh... I woulnt use the bit pale... it could imply that you think she is sick... thats not cool OR she could be sensitive about her pale skin and oppsy you just blew her out cus you Negged to hard....
Second... Dont buy her a drink... its the same as the bar... girls buy you drinks or mutual.. "you buy first and ill buy second"... remember your higher value than her.. why would you buy her a drink?
Dont swear, its not sexy and it also implies that you had no idea that you have to catch your bus.. which is BS... set a false time constraint instead as a part of your opener.
I.e. hey, my friend mark has this problem blah blah, ive only got a few minutes before my bus gets here, but what do you think?
her: blah blah
you: well cool, ive gotta run *bus is comming and I dont want to miss it* you seem cool, give me your number and maybe we can talk more later,

JMT,
Lucky

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150 people are killed every year by Falling Coconuts.... 10 by Shark Attack.

I couldn't find any stats on death from approaching a woman.

Mmmm, i see this seems to pretty much answer my question, just one other thing.
Instead of offering to buy her a drink could i say my friends and i were jus goin to have something to eat, how about u join us, type question but only a brief one like some takeaway because of the 'limited time schudule' Could one also say something like say u have been chattin with her for a bit then u look at ur watch and say
Me: oh is it really that late blast, our bus comes in 10 minutes (or something like that) gee time flies whe ur having fun.

Is this recommendable?

PS would peacocking a bit help with IOIs if it is not 'over the top' and looks good?

I think you are misunderstanding the idea that it's a "FALSE" time constraint. When you open the idea of the false time constraint that you say while opening is so that you can disarm the following idea..."When is he going to leave?" Women start thinking that when they see guys approach their group. The false time constraints handles this before they do something to disrupt you.

Don't shoot yourself in the foot with saying I have to leave in "10 minutes."

There is no real time constraint, in fact the this whole thing disappears as if you decided to hang out with them. Don't put a time limit on your interactions. Ideally, you want to spend a good amount of time with the girl that evening. You want to isolate her, sit her down, talk to her, maybe bounce her somewhere if you can. The longer you stay with her and really talk to her the more comfort you build.

This will make it easier to get phone numbers and date as you spend more time making her comfortable with you.

Have a good weekend,

Jon

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Right, mmmm ok so the quick one is not advisable in this case? How would one get her away by herself if she's in a group, and would it be worth it if the task if really difficult to do without seeming wierd? Is it also alright if i aks the whole group to join me and my group for a drink or something along those lines?

Cheers

I was thinking about this one cos in the bar i usually "work" there is an area that has a few chairs and what have ya.

I was thinking if it was time to isolate i would say something like why don't we take aload off, and ask her friends if it is ok if i take her friend away for 5.

another thing i was wondering was if there is a two set then your target might not want to leave her friend standing alone. any ideas?
how could you isolate then?

Mr E

Quicksearch Isolation for some more ideas...

but the problem you pose is exactly why isolating during a two set is so hard...
the best way that I have seen *if you dont have a wing* is "set merge"

the idea here is to merge together another set you have already opened or perhaps pull in some new people... once you have the conversation going... and the obsticle is occupied THEN you ask the friend/group... hey me and HB here kinda like each other.. we are going to go over there for a few minutes to chat if thats cool.

or something like that... *NOTICE I removed the 5 minutes* dont put an actual time on how long your going to be isolated... you dont want the friend or your target watching the clock to make sure you dont go over your limiting time contstraint.
isolation is NOT the time to use a false or real time constraint.

JMT,
Lucky

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150 people are killed every year by Falling Coconuts.... 10 by Shark Attack.

I couldn't find any stats on death from approaching a woman.

I agree that a pair would be hard to split up, but perhaps if u go with a friend then that makes it two on two, go to the same cafe or whatever but sit on different tables that are reasonably apart, this could be one solution.

And just after an opener say u ask an opinion question like do u think this jacket looks really good on me, what could u say next after she replies, Im stuck on that one.

i dunno bra, i'd just go in for the compliments, and be confident, and have respect for her thats all i could say.. having built myself a solid relationship without the use of some fucking gay forum, i would say just have respect, confidence, and compliment her. and be there when she needs you.

k intersting name dude, thats funny, but yeah if we r talkin bout appraochin in the mall, chattin up a new chick u have neva met before, r u talkin bout the same situation here?

What r some good topic subjucts to use then when ur getting to know them better to increase ur chances with a number close?