i just got off track practise today and there was this girl in my grade i hardly knew so i though why the hell not get a little bit of practise? she was watching the football players (her bro is one). i opend then got a laugh in it felt very smooth. but for some reason i couldnt get her to make any eye contact with me at all not evan a glance im not ugly either! what caould be the reasons for this or wht could i have done? so anyways the convo ended because i didnt feel it could go far with no eye contact.

i did however come from a grp of guys that were 5 yrds away but its not like they all came over and were n the convo i made sure we were in 2 seperate grps. do you think the guys i came from and were still fairly close intimidated her?

my first opening and engaging in convo since i started reading this site!! woot

What felt smooth for you may not have been smooth for her. Reminds me of an episode of Becker where his date went home with a "headache" while he thought the date went great. Can you give some more details? Maybe how you approached her and what was said during the conversation?

You mentioned the word "grade".

I'm assuming she's lets say 16. She's still young, her confidence is probably not that high.

It's hard for a girl to look a dude in the eyes. That takes confidence or a good comfort level.

Don't give women the benefit of the doubt, they're human too.

Maybe there girl is just super shy and quiet. Some people feel awkward with eye contact.